# Can´t choose a player side with Vassal 3.2.12

**URL:** <https://forum.vassalengine.org/t/can-t-choose-a-player-side-with-vassal-3-2-12/6945>\
**Category:** Technical Support & Bugs\
**Created:** [June 22, 2014, 8:08am UTC](https://forum.vassalengine.org/t/can-t-choose-a-player-side-with-vassal-3-2-12/6945 "2014-06-22T08:08:45Z")\
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**Author:** ![Bayernkini](https://forum.vassalengine.org/user_avatar/forum.vassalengine.org/bayernkini/32/47_2.png) [@Bayernkini](https://forum.vassalengine.org/u/Bayernkini)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2014, 8:08am UTC](https://forum.vassalengine.org/t/can-t-choose-a-player-side-with-vassal-3-2-12/6945/1 "2014-06-22T08:08:45Z")

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With the new 3.2.12 Version, it can happen, that i have no Players side choice, if i load a scenario,  
(tried it with the Command&Colors Napoleonics module)

[vassalengine.org/wiki/Module … apoleonics](http://www.vassalengine.org/wiki/Module:Commands_%26_Colors:_Napoleonics)

so i have only the possibility, to do a detour and retire first, then i can choose the side with  
“Join another side”.

But this happens not with all presetup scenarios, only with - Austrian Scenarios for example and with setups,  
which are done into the extension.

I using Windows 7, 64bit, latest Java Version 8 - update 5

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**Author:** ![uckelman](https://forum.vassalengine.org/user_avatar/forum.vassalengine.org/uckelman/32/10020_2.png) [@uckelman](https://forum.vassalengine.org/u/uckelman)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2014, 9:46am UTC](https://forum.vassalengine.org/t/can-t-choose-a-player-side-with-vassal-3-2-12/6945/2 "2014-06-22T09:46:38Z")

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Thus spake Bayernkini via messages:

> With the new 3.2.12 Version, it can happen, that i have no Players side  
> choice, if i load a scenario,  
> (tried it with the Command&Colors Napoleonics module)
> 
> [vassalengine.org/wiki/Module](http://www.vassalengine.org/wiki/Module) … apoleonics[1]
> 
> so i have only the possibility, to do a detour and retire first, then i  
> can choose the side with  
> “Join another side”.
> 
> But this happens not with all presetup scenarios, only with - Austrian  
> Scenarios for example and with setups,  
> which are done into the extension.

Which Austrian scenarios? I tried Wertingen, Günzburg, and Haslach-  
Jungingen and was able to choose a side.

–  
J.

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**Author:** ![Bayernkini](https://forum.vassalengine.org/user_avatar/forum.vassalengine.org/bayernkini/32/47_2.png) [@Bayernkini](https://forum.vassalengine.org/u/Bayernkini)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2014, 2:24pm UTC](https://forum.vassalengine.org/t/can-t-choose-a-player-side-with-vassal-3-2-12/6945/3 "2014-06-22T14:24:09Z")

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Incredible, dont work on my Computer ☹

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**Author:** ![uckelman](https://forum.vassalengine.org/user_avatar/forum.vassalengine.org/uckelman/32/10020_2.png) [@uckelman](https://forum.vassalengine.org/u/uckelman)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2014, 3:20pm UTC](https://forum.vassalengine.org/t/can-t-choose-a-player-side-with-vassal-3-2-12/6945/4 "2014-06-22T15:20:34Z")

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Thus spake Bayernkini via messages:

> Incredible, dont work on my Computer ☹

Which side are you assigned?

–  
J.

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**Author:** ![Bayernkini](https://forum.vassalengine.org/user_avatar/forum.vassalengine.org/bayernkini/32/47_2.png) [@Bayernkini](https://forum.vassalengine.org/u/Bayernkini)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2014, 4:12pm UTC](https://forum.vassalengine.org/t/can-t-choose-a-player-side-with-vassal-3-2-12/6945/5 "2014-06-22T16:12:29Z")

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If i load any austrian (or fanmade scenario in the extension) i get no side to choose,  
the game open direct and i am “Observer”.  
If i play with Vassal 3.2.11 all works correct.

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**Author:** ![uckelman](https://forum.vassalengine.org/user_avatar/forum.vassalengine.org/uckelman/32/10020_2.png) [@uckelman](https://forum.vassalengine.org/u/uckelman)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2014, 5:00pm UTC](https://forum.vassalengine.org/t/can-t-choose-a-player-side-with-vassal-3-2-12/6945/6 "2014-06-22T17:00:01Z")

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Thus spake Bayernkini via messages:

> If i load any austrian (or fanmade scenario in the extension) i get no  
> side to choose,  
> the game open direct and i am “Observer”.  
> If i play with Vassal 3.2.11 all works correct.

What’s in the file Commands\_20\_\_26\_\_20\_Colors\_3A\_\_20\_Napoleonics in  
VASSAL’s prefs directory? (Note that your password is in that file,  
so you might want to obscure that if you post the file here.) VASSAL’s  
prefs directory is in the same directory as the errorLog.

[vassalengine.org/wiki/Error\_Logs](http://www.vassalengine.org/wiki/Error_Logs)

–  
J.

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**Author:** ![Bayernkini](https://forum.vassalengine.org/user_avatar/forum.vassalengine.org/bayernkini/32/47_2.png) [@Bayernkini](https://forum.vassalengine.org/u/Bayernkini)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2014, 10:31am UTC](https://forum.vassalengine.org/t/can-t-choose-a-player-side-with-vassal-3-2-12/6945/7 "2014-06-23T10:31:29Z")

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So far i didn´t find any prefs Folder 😒  
what should be the Name of the logfile, maybe i can search it direct.

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**Author:** ![uckelman](https://forum.vassalengine.org/user_avatar/forum.vassalengine.org/uckelman/32/10020_2.png) [@uckelman](https://forum.vassalengine.org/u/uckelman)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2014, 10:51am UTC](https://forum.vassalengine.org/t/can-t-choose-a-player-side-with-vassal-3-2-12/6945/8 "2014-06-23T10:51:51Z")

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Thus spake Bayernkini via messages:

> So far i didn´t find any prefs Folder :roll:  
> what should be the Name of the logfile, maybe i can search it direct.

It’s possible that the directory is hidden by default. The name of the  
file is Commands\_20\_\_26\_\_20\_Colors\_3A\_\_20\_Napoleonics.

–  
J.

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**Author:** ![Bayernkini](https://forum.vassalengine.org/user_avatar/forum.vassalengine.org/bayernkini/32/47_2.png) [@Bayernkini](https://forum.vassalengine.org/u/Bayernkini)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2014, 2:37pm UTC](https://forum.vassalengine.org/t/can-t-choose-a-player-side-with-vassal-3-2-12/6945/9 "2014-06-23T14:37:33Z")

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Found it ![;)]( "Wink")  
I sent you a PM with the file 🙂

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**Author:** ![uckelman](https://forum.vassalengine.org/user_avatar/forum.vassalengine.org/uckelman/32/10020_2.png) [@uckelman](https://forum.vassalengine.org/u/uckelman)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2014, 4:22pm UTC](https://forum.vassalengine.org/t/can-t-choose-a-player-side-with-vassal-3-2-12/6945/10 "2014-06-23T16:22:55Z")

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Do you get different behavior when loading the Austrian scenarios if you change your password in the Preferences dialog?

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**Author:** ![Bayernkini](https://forum.vassalengine.org/user_avatar/forum.vassalengine.org/bayernkini/32/47_2.png) [@Bayernkini](https://forum.vassalengine.org/u/Bayernkini)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2014, 4:57pm UTC](https://forum.vassalengine.org/t/can-t-choose-a-player-side-with-vassal-3-2-12/6945/11 "2014-06-23T16:57:09Z")

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> [@](#):
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> if you change your password in the Preferences dialog?

great, this advise solved the problem 🙂

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**Author:** ![uckelman](https://forum.vassalengine.org/user_avatar/forum.vassalengine.org/uckelman/32/10020_2.png) [@uckelman](https://forum.vassalengine.org/u/uckelman)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2014, 5:05pm UTC](https://forum.vassalengine.org/t/can-t-choose-a-player-side-with-vassal-3-2-12/6945/12 "2014-06-23T17:05:43Z")

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Thus spake Bayernkini via messages:

> > if you change your password in the Preferences dialog?
> 
> great, this advise solved the problem 🙂

Explanation of the problem: The Austrian scenarios have the same  
password for the observer player as you have set for the module.  
VASSAL recognized that, and assigns you the observer. This is a bug  
in the module—scenarios should not have a password assigned for  
the observer.

You might want to let the maintainer of the module know that this is a  
problem.

–  
J.
