Over on CSW, there’s been some discussion of MMP and Vassalp–MMP has announced that there won’t be future Vassal mods for MMP games. It’s not clear if this means that the company won’t allow any mods, or just that it won’t officially create and/or endorse them. It’s also not clear what this means for mods that already exist.
MMP has said that there is something is coming in the future that will apparently replace Vassal in some way, but it’s not clear what that means. In fact, MMP’s comments so far have been rather uninformative. Anyone know what’s going on? I sure hope it doesn’t mean that all MMP mods will be yanked.
I would think the former myself also. With that in mind I dont see how it is viable - witness Matrix Games, a professional war game company in the electronic medium with their current progress/track record of producing an electronic version of one of the L’n’L boardgame series. 2 years ongoing and still nothing out the door yet for consumer purchase.
If it takes 2+ years to do one game (which is more than normal for commercial game software) I fail to see how MMP will be able to do this for all their products and keep up / current, what with the pre order system where users vote with their wallets on what they should produce. This gives Curt’s software venture no semblance of time to have the electronic product ready when the board product is within a reasonable time frame.
As to latter, I really wish Bruce would join the Vassal project instead of going it alone a he has done. His work is excellent in rules handling. He could contribute a lot here to enable this sort of stuff as a sandbox type feature for Vassal where designers could then go define the rules for their specific mod. I’ve tried to coax him with collaboration before but he was concerned with his IP rights and of course Vassal is open source - an obstacle I wouldn’t be able to bridge or allay his concerns I decided so let it go instead of pursuing.
Its a shame because the 2 together combined would produce the penultimate electronic board version for users imo
Yeah, I don’t see it either. If that’s the route the want to go, they’re
free to try, I guess.
Being open-source is not inconsistent with maintaining IP rights. If he
wanted to contribute, he’d still be the copyright owner for all of his
contributions. Licensing under the LGPL or GPL is is licensing, not
transfer of ownership. If what he’s actually worried about is letting
other people see his secret sauce, well, that’s another matter.
By my reckoning, honestly I don’t know but we should leave room for it to come about just in case . I would think 20-30 years from now there might be some tool around that makes what we use now seem very primitive and I should (hopefully) still be around to see it, if that does occur
I’d been meaning to post a question as to why GB2 is not available as a Vassal module. Now I wonder if it’s a permission issue. Or is it what I suspected before and just the size of the file and the length of time such a project would take?
I own a copy of the OCS games I play on Vassal. But playing the paper and cardboard game is not practical and FTF play is not available where I live. Yet MMP has every right to protect its copyright as well. Could Vassal build in some sort of registration system as a proof of purchase if a game company required it?
Anyway, does anyone know if a GB2 module is in the works? My copy sits unpunched and unplayed in the closet.[/list]
Well that’s a very positive development indeed. I don’t have a lot of
MMP games, so I haven’t been following the conversation very closely,
but it’s nice to see that a major game publisher is not going to
this is a very interesting subject.gaming firms seem to support vassal.
gmt and mmp provide mod and even rules support on their web.
gaming firms are good at making games vassal is good at running a gaming sight.all of these gaming firms i would think should design mod games that fit vassal to the tee. wargamers are like everyone else impulse buyers at least i am.i like to drag aroung the rules and pretend i understand them.since i started using vassal i have once again started gaming and have even added a few new games.why because there is something having the game and looking setting it up in person.
when you see how much work a gaming co put it in to make this game you can judge how good they are or how bad.cheap looking games turn me off. a visual affect i guess.