# Refresh predefined setups has some interesting features **URL:** \ **Category:** Technical Support & Bugs\ **Created:** [July 7, 2026, 1:25pm UTC](https://forum.vassalengine.org/t/refresh-predefined-setups-has-some-interesting-features/90272 "2026-07-07T13:25:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ChuckS](https://forum.vassalengine.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/db5fbb/32.png) [@ChuckS](https://forum.vassalengine.org/u/ChuckS)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2026, 1:25pm UTC](https://forum.vassalengine.org/t/refresh-predefined-setups-has-some-interesting-features/90272/1 "2026-07-07T13:25:13Z")
I added a couple of fields to the counters using Prototypes, when I run the refresh predefined setups it does not add those fields to the setups but instead gives a warning for every counter on the map. It also wrecks counters with multiple text fields by taking the first field and applying it to the second and third fields in this case. The before: ![image](https://forum.vassalengine.org/uploads/default/original/2X/d/d68a69f45bb4e2215d06b570dfee8604e037c079.png) The after: ![image](https://forum.vassalengine.org/uploads/default/original/2X/9/9d51f58f1944ad822efcb5727bd08d3748d56369.png) ---
**Author:** ![JoelCFC25](https://forum.vassalengine.org/user_avatar/forum.vassalengine.org/joelcfc25/32/2687_2.png) [@JoelCFC25](https://forum.vassalengine.org/u/JoelCFC25)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2026, 1:57pm UTC](https://forum.vassalengine.org/t/refresh-predefined-setups-has-some-interesting-features/90272/2 "2026-07-07T13:57:41Z")
I’m a bit skeptical that anyone can speculate on what happened here without considerably more information: 1. the Refresh Predefined Setups has a number of options–which were used? 2. what did the piece prototypes look like before (are these Text Labels?) 3. what did the piece prototypes look like after–i.e., what all did you add? 4. what was the text of the warning for every counter? Did you make a backup of your module before running the refresh setups tool? ---
**Author:** ![ChuckS](https://forum.vassalengine.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/db5fbb/32.png) [@ChuckS](https://forum.vassalengine.org/u/ChuckS)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2026, 2:29pm UTC](https://forum.vassalengine.org/t/refresh-predefined-setups-has-some-interesting-features/90272/3 "2026-07-07T14:29:11Z")
Those are text labels used only for informational purposes for a campaign. Sending a video to Joel Uckelman via messenger! I don’t trust myself in my late 60s at the end of a 45 year Info Tech journey! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![ChuckS](https://forum.vassalengine.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/db5fbb/32.png) [@ChuckS](https://forum.vassalengine.org/u/ChuckS)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2026, 2:34pm UTC](https://forum.vassalengine.org/t/refresh-predefined-setups-has-some-interesting-features/90272/4 "2026-07-07T14:34:14Z")
Here is the module if you want to review it, I removed everything but the Somme Campaign that has the text field pilot info. > **[Red\_Barons\_War\_6-3\_test.vmod](https://drive.google.com/file/d/1fjv_qZcLE4XEByb6w0HSGxSf_M0bpkXK/view?usp=sharing)** > > Google Drive file. ---
**Author:** ![akulkis00](https://forum.vassalengine.org/user_avatar/forum.vassalengine.org/akulkis00/32/11366_2.png) [@akulkis00](https://forum.vassalengine.org/u/akulkis00)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2026, 3:35pm UTC](https://forum.vassalengine.org/t/refresh-predefined-setups-has-some-interesting-features/90272/5 "2026-07-07T15:35:14Z")
We can’t help if you don’t show us the code. ---
**Author:** ![ChuckS](https://forum.vassalengine.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/db5fbb/32.png) [@ChuckS](https://forum.vassalengine.org/u/ChuckS)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2026, 3:38pm UTC](https://forum.vassalengine.org/t/refresh-predefined-setups-has-some-interesting-features/90272/6 "2026-07-07T15:38:53Z")
There is no code involved, running the refresh changes text fields when the counter has 3 fields in it. ![image](https://forum.vassalengine.org/uploads/default/original/2X/a/a69269deb7b6bedfdccb0fd20241ba26fb21edc4.png) ---
**Author:** ![akulkis00](https://forum.vassalengine.org/user_avatar/forum.vassalengine.org/akulkis00/32/11366_2.png) [@akulkis00](https://forum.vassalengine.org/u/akulkis00)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2026, 3:42pm UTC](https://forum.vassalengine.org/t/refresh-predefined-setups-has-some-interesting-features/90272/7 "2026-07-07T15:42:06Z")
Hmm. Sounds like a bug that’s above user or module-designer level. Refer it to uckelman ---
**Author:** ![JoelCFC25](https://forum.vassalengine.org/user_avatar/forum.vassalengine.org/joelcfc25/32/2687_2.png) [@JoelCFC25](https://forum.vassalengine.org/u/JoelCFC25)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2026, 3:42pm UTC](https://forum.vassalengine.org/t/refresh-predefined-setups-has-some-interesting-features/90272/8 "2026-07-07T15:42:11Z")
It doesn’t appear that any of your Text Label traits are using the Description field. This is what allows the following option of the Refresh Predefined Setups tool to distinguish between multiples of a trait: ![image](https://forum.vassalengine.org/uploads/default/original/2X/a/ac551a43706eea1704efe089a47c6420c4c4058a.png) ---
**Author:** ![ChuckS](https://forum.vassalengine.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/db5fbb/32.png) [@ChuckS](https://forum.vassalengine.org/u/ChuckS)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2026, 3:44pm UTC](https://forum.vassalengine.org/t/refresh-predefined-setups-has-some-interesting-features/90272/9 "2026-07-07T15:44:23Z")
> **[IMG\_7631.MOV](https://drive.google.com/file/d/1RBsH8cYkud_wwOAtE3pyL3WEtnB_jFTC/view?usp=sharing)** > > Google Drive file. So the reason it replicates to the other fields is that I have not changed them? ---
**Author:** ![ChuckS](https://forum.vassalengine.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/db5fbb/32.png) [@ChuckS](https://forum.vassalengine.org/u/ChuckS)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2026, 3:48pm UTC](https://forum.vassalengine.org/t/refresh-predefined-setups-has-some-interesting-features/90272/10 "2026-07-07T15:48:44Z")
So what needs to change in the default text field to make them different enough it does not flood the other 2 fields"? ![image](https://forum.vassalengine.org/uploads/default/original/2X/6/605fbb860b5f36f48a7d51f5239f312bfdd12de1.png) ---
**Author:** ![JoelCFC25](https://forum.vassalengine.org/user_avatar/forum.vassalengine.org/joelcfc25/32/2687_2.png) [@JoelCFC25](https://forum.vassalengine.org/u/JoelCFC25)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2026, 3:52pm UTC](https://forum.vassalengine.org/t/refresh-predefined-setups-has-some-interesting-features/90272/11 "2026-07-07T15:52:22Z")
![image](https://forum.vassalengine.org/uploads/default/original/2X/2/2e312bf4c7b5abc07b80a9a02ed1bf7210e10658.png) Compare how two Text Label traits appear in the trait stack–the opened one with a description filled in _vs_ the other one (circled in green) that lacks a description. ---
**Author:** ![ChuckS](https://forum.vassalengine.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/db5fbb/32.png) [@ChuckS](https://forum.vassalengine.org/u/ChuckS)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2026, 5:31pm UTC](https://forum.vassalengine.org/t/refresh-predefined-setups-has-some-interesting-features/90272/12 "2026-07-07T17:31:50Z")
Yep fixed the issue for the counter I tested with the description, wild thing is the old counters without descriptions went blank lol! Thank you SO MUCH for your help Vassal is fantasic!