# Strange 'grayed out' options for pieces

**URL:** <https://forum.vassalengine.org/t/strange-grayed-out-options-for-pieces/10748>\
**Category:** Module Design\
**Created:** [June 20, 2020, 7:29am UTC](https://forum.vassalengine.org/t/strange-grayed-out-options-for-pieces/10748 "2020-06-20T07:29:10Z")\
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**Author:** ![palad0n](https://forum.vassalengine.org/user_avatar/forum.vassalengine.org/palad0n/32/215_2.png) [@palad0n](https://forum.vassalengine.org/u/palad0n)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2020, 7:29am UTC](https://forum.vassalengine.org/t/strange-grayed-out-options-for-pieces/10748/1 "2020-06-20T07:29:10Z")

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I have managed (finally) to get a ‘semi auto’ combat adds/die roll modifier system to work (for 2D10 ATM). I intend to run many simulations to test out all the calculations and equations. Once done I’ll duplicate the one combat map to make 2 more (by duplicate I mean copy/paste, but change all the GP names for each new map). Note that this work is based upon the trick/tip [vassalengine.org/wiki/How\_to … tion/state](http://www.vassalengine.org/wiki/How_to_calculate_total_of_numeric_Property_of_all_pieces_in_particular_location/state).

In setting up the counters to do the simulations, I noticed that they now have a series of 12 grayed out options in the pop-up from a right click on a counter, see pic. On the combat map there are 12 zones being used. Coincidence? The other pic shows a couple of the prototypes. There is nothing in any of the 12 prototypes that calls for an option change for a counter.

Where the heck are these grayed out lines coming from?

[attachment=1]unit right click.png[/attachment] [attachment=0]the prototypes.png[/attachment]

If the included pics do not show (which they may if they exceed the file upload limit), a couple of links to google drive are below.

[drive.google.com/file/d/1NWsWB0 … sp=sharing](https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NWsWB0QT4BB4a1PwYRr1ey9t1GUcZ_Gw/view?usp=sharing)

[drive.google.com/file/d/1GbCwsh … sp=sharing](https://drive.google.com/file/d/1GbCwsh5SVfGuB0vqE2Z-Q2z-7x7TZ8Ae/view?usp=sharing)

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**Author:** ![slimy](https://forum.vassalengine.org/user_avatar/forum.vassalengine.org/slimy/32/4448_2.png) [@slimy](https://forum.vassalengine.org/u/slimy)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2020, 8:30am UTC](https://forum.vassalengine.org/t/strange-grayed-out-options-for-pieces/10748/2 "2020-06-20T08:30:41Z")

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I suspect what is happening will be clearer if you look at the definition for the “Send to DEFR1 ALT CTRL D”. (I don’t think you have shown us that.) I suspect that there you will find a return back option “Return ALT CTRL S”. Perhaps you don’t want that. Also it will be greyed out because you have not sent it anywhere.

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**Author:** ![palad0n](https://forum.vassalengine.org/user_avatar/forum.vassalengine.org/palad0n/32/215_2.png) [@palad0n](https://forum.vassalengine.org/u/palad0n)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2020, 12:27pm UTC](https://forum.vassalengine.org/t/strange-grayed-out-options-for-pieces/10748/3 "2020-06-20T12:27:23Z")

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The send to ATKR1 and DEFR1 both use ALT CTRL S to return the counters to where they came from. These work perfectly.

I was asking about that gray/grey area above ‘send to DEFR1’. One of those 12 lines of nothingess is highlighted.

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**Author:** ![slimy](https://forum.vassalengine.org/user_avatar/forum.vassalengine.org/slimy/32/4448_2.png) [@slimy](https://forum.vassalengine.org/u/slimy)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2020, 1:12pm UTC](https://forum.vassalengine.org/t/strange-grayed-out-options-for-pieces/10748/4 "2020-06-20T13:12:13Z")

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> [@palad0n](#):
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> The send to ATKR1 and DEFR1 both use ALT CTRL S to return the counters to where they came from. These work perfectly.
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> I was asking about that gray/grey area above ‘send to DEFR1’. One of those 12 lines of nothingess is highlighted.

Aah! You might want to give some details about your system: Operating System, Java version, VASSAL version, module and version etc…

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**Author:** ![Cattlesquat](https://forum.vassalengine.org/user_avatar/forum.vassalengine.org/cattlesquat/32/241_2.png) [@Cattlesquat](https://forum.vassalengine.org/u/Cattlesquat)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2020, 3:15pm UTC](https://forum.vassalengine.org/t/strange-grayed-out-options-for-pieces/10748/5 "2020-06-20T15:15:11Z")

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Possible sources for “empty” command lines include:

- Spaces in an apparently-empty command line field (e.g. perhaps in some of those Set Global Property traits)
- Mark Moved traits even with completely empty command lines display a menu item.

One other note is that when looking down a “stack of traits”, the bottom/last ones will be the ones putting commands at the TOP of the menu – so since your empty lines are at the top of your menu I would be suspicious of the things nearest the bottom of your prototype / traits stack.

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**Author:** ![palad0n](https://forum.vassalengine.org/user_avatar/forum.vassalengine.org/palad0n/32/215_2.png) [@palad0n](https://forum.vassalengine.org/u/palad0n)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2020, 1:11pm UTC](https://forum.vassalengine.org/t/strange-grayed-out-options-for-pieces/10748/6 "2020-07-04T13:11:29Z")

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Not that sure about the spaces.

A check did show a few, but not all areas. Whatever I did, and I have absolutely no idea, they have disappeared (not just ghosting, but gone). Situation resolved, but not sure as to the how!
