# Vassal 4 vs Java

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**Category:** Development\
**Tags:** v4\
**Created:** [November 28, 2020, 8:09am UTC](https://forum.vassalengine.org/t/vassal-4-vs-java/11394 "2020-11-28T08:09:20Z")\
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**Post date:** [November 28, 2020, 1:12pm UTC](https://forum.vassalengine.org/t/vassal-4-vs-java/11394/3 "2020-11-28T13:12:17Z")

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Thus spake LoadEffectiveAddress:

> For the longest time, there’s been a plan to work on a better-designed  
> Vassal 4 and ditch Java. Years. But then Covid-19 came along and  
> apparently spurred some new interest in Vassal and there are now some  
> forward-looking plans to significantly improve the v3 client over  
> several releases.

That’s only partly due to the pandemic. Work on 3.3 started in Autumn  
2019.

> I’ve been avoiding v3 since I heard about v4, but it’s hard to tell if  
> it’s still going to happen. Even desktop Java has improved since the  
> original complaints about it. I don’t want to argue for or against it,  
> I am just wondering: is v4 still likely, or is this resurgence of  
> interest going to keep rolling on v3 into the foreseeable future, and  
> end up being the new goal?

Once 3.5 is released, my own development time will be going into V4.  
We released 3.5.0-beta1 yesterday, so that will be happening fairly  
soon.

> I hope this doesn’t come across as pushy or entitled, I understand  
> everyone is a volunteer and things can take time and be interrupted by  
> real life. I am just unclear on the future plans, given the recent  
> (relative) flurry of activity. It feels like there have been more  
> releases this year than over the last five.

From my point of view, the purpose of much of the work since last fall  
has been to get V3 into a state where it doesn’t require much maintenance,  
in order to give me time to work on V4 while people use V3.

–  
J.

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