# Vassal always tiles image files **URL:** \ **Category:** Technical Support & Bugs\ **Created:** [June 27, 2020, 11:05pm UTC](https://forum.vassalengine.org/t/vassal-always-tiles-image-files/10783 "2020-06-27T23:05:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Hagar](https://forum.vassalengine.org/user_avatar/forum.vassalengine.org/hagar/32/50_2.png) [@Hagar](https://forum.vassalengine.org/u/Hagar)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2020, 11:05pm UTC](https://forum.vassalengine.org/t/vassal-always-tiles-image-files/10783/1 "2020-06-27T23:05:50Z")
Vassal seems to always tile image file when loading modules even though no graphics files have been changed. It’s not module specific. Dell XPS 8500 12.0 GM Menory, 64-bit Windows 7 NVIDIA GeForce GT 620 Vassal 3.2.17 Java Version 1.8.0\_251 - SCS Panzer Battles - Chir River version 1.00 - Loading PB Scen 2-1.vsav … - Loaded PB Scen 2-1.vsav ---
**Author:** ![Brent\_Easton](https://forum.vassalengine.org/user_avatar/forum.vassalengine.org/brent_easton/32/10_2.png) [@Brent\_Easton](https://forum.vassalengine.org/u/Brent_Easton)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2020, 12:18am UTC](https://forum.vassalengine.org/t/vassal-always-tiles-image-files/10783/2 "2020-06-28T00:18:36Z")
[https://forum.vassalengine.org/t/module-keeps-tiling/10719/2](https://forum.vassalengine.org/t/module-keeps-tiling/10719/2) We have not been able to track down why this happens, but it seems to be limited to Windows machines. ---
**Author:** ![Hagar](https://forum.vassalengine.org/user_avatar/forum.vassalengine.org/hagar/32/50_2.png) [@Hagar](https://forum.vassalengine.org/u/Hagar)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2020, 7:09pm UTC](https://forum.vassalengine.org/t/vassal-always-tiles-image-files/10783/3 "2020-06-28T19:09:41Z")
An older response thought it was due to files being out of date, which is why I made the comment. Naturally, if the graphics files were updated, then it would be correct to re-tile the image. Some Windows file properties must be involved, which Java is interrogating. I just tried loading a Vassal module that I hadn’t accessed in quite some time (2011), and it wasn’t re-tiling. The problem seems to be prominent in modules for which I have recently edited the graphics files. I looked at a tiling module, and the module is not in the folder with the graphics files. Vassal could store the paths of the internal graphics files, but then there would be a problem if the file on disk was no longer there. Perhaps it’s due to the date of the module itself. MODULE Dates: 2017 re-tiles 2016 re-tiles 2020 did not re-tile So that’ not necessarily the answer. Maybe someone could look at the re-tiling logic to see what’s being queried … ---
**Author:** ![JoelCFC25](https://forum.vassalengine.org/user_avatar/forum.vassalengine.org/joelcfc25/32/2687_2.png) [@JoelCFC25](https://forum.vassalengine.org/u/JoelCFC25)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2020, 7:35pm UTC](https://forum.vassalengine.org/t/vassal-always-tiles-image-files/10783/4 "2020-06-28T19:35:07Z")
Have you tried clearing the Tile Cache completely? ---
**Author:** ![uckelman](https://forum.vassalengine.org/user_avatar/forum.vassalengine.org/uckelman/32/10020_2.png) [@uckelman](https://forum.vassalengine.org/u/uckelman)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2020, 8:52pm UTC](https://forum.vassalengine.org/t/vassal-always-tiles-image-files/10783/5 "2020-06-28T20:52:29Z")
Thus spake Hagar: > An older response thought it was due to files being out of date, which > is why I made the comment. Naturally, if the graphics files were > updated, then it would be correct to re-tile the image. > > Some Windows file properties must be involved, which Java is > interrogating. > > I just tried loading a Vassal module that I hadn’t accessed in quite > some time (2011), and it wasn’t re-tiling. > > The problem seems to be prominent in modules for which I have recently > edited the graphics files. > > I looked at a tiling module, and the module is not in the folder with > the graphics files. Vassal could store the paths of the internal > graphics files, but then there would be a problem if the file on disk > was no longer there. Perhaps it’s due to the date of the module itself. > > MODULE Dates: > 2017 re-tiles > 2016 re-tiles > 2020 did not re-tile > > So that’ not necessarily the answer. > > Maybe someone could look at the re-tiling logic to see what’s being > queried … If you have a module where the problem is reproducible every time, it would help us troubleshoot if we could have that module. – J. ---
**Author:** ![Hagar](https://forum.vassalengine.org/user_avatar/forum.vassalengine.org/hagar/32/50_2.png) [@Hagar](https://forum.vassalengine.org/u/Hagar)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2020, 11:59pm UTC](https://forum.vassalengine.org/t/vassal-always-tiles-image-files/10783/6 "2020-07-02T23:59:27Z")
Based on the comments that are displayed when you do this, it seems that clearing cache is the thing you DON’T want to do. But I went ahead and cleared the cache. It takes a long time to go through all the files. Nonetheless, sometimes, upon first load, it re-tiles. Upon second load, it doesn’t re-tile. (This is what you would expect.) Others re-tile all the time. Seems to be module specific. I’ll send you a module where this it repeatable. ---
**Author:** ![Brent\_Easton](https://forum.vassalengine.org/user_avatar/forum.vassalengine.org/brent_easton/32/10_2.png) [@Brent\_Easton](https://forum.vassalengine.org/u/Brent_Easton)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2020, 12:10am UTC](https://forum.vassalengine.org/t/vassal-always-tiles-image-files/10783/7 "2020-07-03T00:10:53Z")
Have a look here: [https://forum.vassalengine.org/t/module-keeps-tiling/10719/1](https://forum.vassalengine.org/t/module-keeps-tiling/10719/1) It seems to happen occasionally on Windows when saving a module. If that module is then distributed, everyone who receives it will get the same problem. You can fix a specific module by unzipping it, updating the DTM stamp on all files, then rezipping the module. ---
**Author:** ![uckelman](https://forum.vassalengine.org/user_avatar/forum.vassalengine.org/uckelman/32/10020_2.png) [@uckelman](https://forum.vassalengine.org/u/uckelman)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2020, 12:15am UTC](https://forum.vassalengine.org/t/vassal-always-tiles-image-files/10783/8 "2020-07-03T00:15:46Z")
Thus spake Brent Easton: > Have a look here: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=11954[1] > > It seems to happen occasionally on Windows when saving a module. If that > module is then distributed, everyone who receives it will get the same > problem. > > You can fix a specific module by unzipping it, updating the DTM stamp on > all files, then rezipping the module. Before you fix the moduld you have, I’d like a copy, so I can see one which triggers the problem reliably. – J. ---
**Author:** ![Hagar](https://forum.vassalengine.org/user_avatar/forum.vassalengine.org/hagar/32/50_2.png) [@Hagar](https://forum.vassalengine.org/u/Hagar)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2020, 5:48pm UTC](https://forum.vassalengine.org/t/vassal-always-tiles-image-files/10783/9 "2020-07-03T17:48:31Z")
After clearing Cache, most modules tiled first, then did not tile on subsequent loads – as expected. After a lot of testing, the problem may seem to be related to modules that I have made or modified. If so, then it may be an OS/file attributes problem. If the problem doesn’t manifest itself on your computer, that may be an answer. Had to try and find the smallest module I could for upload, as many of them are quite large. Hopefully, this will illustrate the problem (or not). It always re-tiles upon activation. File is 10761 kb. Says file is too big. ---
**Author:** ![Cattlesquat](https://forum.vassalengine.org/user_avatar/forum.vassalengine.org/cattlesquat/32/241_2.png) [@Cattlesquat](https://forum.vassalengine.org/u/Cattlesquat)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2020, 5:51pm UTC](https://forum.vassalengine.org/t/vassal-always-tiles-image-files/10783/10 "2020-07-03T17:51:46Z")
Alternative upload is here: [vassalengine.org/wiki/Special:Upload](http://www.vassalengine.org/wiki/Special:Upload) ---
**Author:** ![Hagar](https://forum.vassalengine.org/user_avatar/forum.vassalengine.org/hagar/32/50_2.png) [@Hagar](https://forum.vassalengine.org/u/Hagar)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2020, 6:17pm UTC](https://forum.vassalengine.org/t/vassal-always-tiles-image-files/10783/11 "2020-07-03T18:17:47Z")
Sent. ---
**Author:** ![uckelman](https://forum.vassalengine.org/user_avatar/forum.vassalengine.org/uckelman/32/10020_2.png) [@uckelman](https://forum.vassalengine.org/u/uckelman)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2021, 10:23pm UTC](https://forum.vassalengine.org/t/vassal-always-tiles-image-files/10783/12 "2021-05-27T22:23:41Z")
Following up here: Is this still a problem?