Do we have an Ant task for building the distribution yet? If not, how are you generating your releases Joel?
Thus spake “bsmith”:
I’m doing it with a Makefile. It’s in the root directory of my caching
branch.
vassalengine.svn.sourceforge.net … ision=2748
Warning: You will not get this to work on Windows, unless maybe you
have Cygwin installed, as it contains some shell scripting, some calls
to find and sed, and a perl one-liner. It’s not too unreadable, though,
so it could be useful to see what I’m doing. To make a release build,
I do ‘make clean-release release’.
All of the ant stuff I got from Rodney is under dist/ant/. I’m not using
it myself because I don’t like ant, but I modeled my Makefile after some
of it.
vassalengine.svn.sourceforge.net … /dist/ant/
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Can’t Eclipse just generate the distribution for you? What’s the
advantage of the Makefile?
- Michael.
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Thus spake “Michael Kiefte”:
The advantage of the Makefile is that I don’t have to use Eclipse.
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Gotcha.
- M.
P.S.: Eclipse is growing on me. My default choice was vi and prayer.
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On 1/8/08, Michael Kiefte mkiefte@dal.ca wrote:
FYI: there is a VI plugin for Eclipse that will give you VI
keybindings in the editor.
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Thus spake “Michael Kiefte”:
That Eclipse makes me use an editor which isn’t Vim disqualifies it for me.
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Thus spake “Tim Byrne”:
Is it just some keybindings, or is it everything? E.g., does it also
give you ed mode?
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On 1/8/08, Joel Uckelman uckelman@nomic.net wrote:
Its just many of the keybindings for navigation, searching, basic
editing (yanks,puts,etc)… Don’t get me wrong. Its no VIM 
But
it did make my time with Eclipse possible. I hadn’t looked at Java
code in at least 6 years, and was trying to navigate all the source
code in VASSAL. I’m still trying to decided if Eclipse made it easier
or not.
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Thus spake “Tim Byrne”:
I didn’t really become familiar with the code until after I stopped
trying to use Eclipse, so I can’t really say either. (I was also
learning Java at the time, so way too many conflicting influences
there to sort out.)
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The debugger in Eclipse is fantastic. I’ve been using that a lot even
to just sort out the effects of what I’m doing and not even
necessarily bug hunting. Decoding the ADC2 file formats was made a
lot easier that way.
If only I could just figure out how SVN works. My impression is that
Eclipse is obscuring a lot of what is going on. I think if I were
using CVS on the command line I could do this, but I’m totally
mystified.
- M.
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Thus spake “Michael Kiefte”:
Can you describe for me what you’re trying to do? I user SVN from the
command line, and I could tell you what would work that way. Maybe
that would shed some light on what’s happening.
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On Jan 8, 2008, at 10:37 AM, Michael Kiefte wrote:
Well, you could always just use SVN on the command line. It works
largely similarly to CVS that way.
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I’m not sure if my other more SVN related post got through, but the
problem appears to be that when I attempted a merge from the
repository, it didn’t update everything on my computer and I don’t
know why. I did a comparison of my VASSAL directory and the archive
and found a lot of differences despite the fact that I did a merge.
What I don’t understand is why it updated some files and not others.
There doesn’t appear to be a pattern.
I’m going to attempt another merge. I don’t know what revision number
to merge from though since I just did it. What happens if you put in
the wrong revision number as the start?
- Michael.
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It would mean the process of building Vassal and making the distribution (the exe file, subfolders, batch files etc.) would practically boil down to:
- Checkout Vassal from SVN.
- Type “ant”.
Anyone could do it, no need to worry about classpaths or where things are.
Thus spake “Michael Kiefte”:
You’ll end up with a changeset being applied which potentially includes
too much or too little.
I can’t say what your problem is, but this might help you. I found it
useful, at least:
svnbook.red-bean.com/en/1.0/ch04s04.html
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Today is 2011 Oct 24. Subclipse is still obscuring lots of stuff. I use TortoiseSVN (or some SVN command line) to do every “Team” (Eclipse) function.
I agree with Brent. If anyone needs this (build with ant), let me know, and I’ll translate the Makefile into an ant config. I will also hope to have Joel’s feedback on this, so that we can put the ant file into SVN.
There’s also the argument that Vassal 4 will use Cygwin and C++ and Python, so ant is no longer necessary or desirable. Here’s the condition I think should factor into our decision: If Vassal 4 is gonna be up in 1 month, then throw ant out; Else, ant may be needed to get more tinkerers on board.
V4 is not going to happen in 1 month, that much is for sure. 
Anybody into sidebets? My money is on > 2 years for VASSAL 4, though Joel claims < 2 months. 
(The exact claim was “by Christmas”, as I recall, though I do not actually recall a year being specified. Shades of 1914!)