Help Convert Module Pages to the New Module Library

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I think it would be a really good idea for you to formulate a policy on this. Currently, each Wiki page is converted into a single project. Take for example The Russian Campaign

The new project is owned by 5 users, some of which seem inactive at this point. Some of these owners seem to have no relation to each other, and it seems odd that they should collaborate.

To make a new package in this project it seems that one would need to get the OK from one of these owners.

On the other hand, if that cannot be obtained, possibly because the owners are no longer active, then a module developers only other option would be to start a new project. This has some consequences, unless projects are subordinate to some Game entry:

  • When a user searches for Russian Campaign, several pages will show up. The user is then left confused as to which page to visit.
  • The data which is common to the various projects of the game (e.g., playing time, number of players, publisher, etc.) is not shared among the various projects.

If you have a single project per Game and leave it up to the project owners, then I think you will quickly end up in a very difficult situation where you as administrators will need to intervene quite often.

I would recommend to make a policy that says

  • Each Game - defined by it’s corresponding BGG - can have several Projects. Registered users can make new projects under a Game more or less at will. A new Game is made by the site administrators on request. The Game page contains
    • Publisher
    • Year
    • Time-to-play
    • Number of players
    • A description
    • … and other tags
      Owners of a project under a given game are contributors to a game, but does not own it.
  • Each Project is managed by one or more users. Managers of projects are silo’d to their project. Managers of projects can create new Packages within their project more or less at will. Perhaps third party registered users should be able to request a new package under a project. Each project has
    • A number of maintainers
    • various tags
    • a description
    • a summary description to show on the Game page
  • All Packages of a Project are managed by the maintainers of the project and possibly designated contributors. Packages has
    • Various tags
    • A summary description
    • A number of versioned files

The point is, that projects does not seem to map to what in the old system was called a Module or Game. Thus, you may end up in a situation where you will have several Projects that correspond to a single Game and they would all be shown as independent search results in the Game Library front-end. E.g., if I search “Russian Campaign”, I would get a list like

  • (TRC) 3rd Edition 2.3
  • (TRC) 4th Edition 1.3
  • TRC 4th Edition by Toze Santos
  • TRC 5th Edition by Joel Toppen
  • TRC5th 1.0
  • TRC_5_2 2.0
  • A Victory Lost
  • Fortress Europa

while I think most would expect to see a link to a single page named “The Russian Campaign” with various projects underneath it.

Again, I think you need to formulate a policy. There could very well be diverging opinions on what project owners want - in particular when seemly un-associated users are co-owners. I think if you want project owners to take more ownership (and responsibility) for their projects, you have to make the ownership much more explicit and fine-grained. Otherwise it may turn into the wild west, and you as administrators will have a lot to do.

Sorry if this wasn’t clear. At the moment, it seems that most Packages only contains a single file (with multiple versions). However, I think that could be a problem. As I see it, a Package is mainly a container of a module (.vmod). But a .vmod may well have associated files - in particular logs (.vmod), saves (.vsav), and extensions (.vdmx) which would in many cases naturally belong in the same Package (not least because they may depend on the version of the .vmod).

A Package could of course also be a (set of) extensions, auxiliary files, and so on.

BTW. Auxiliary files that are specific to a Game (current Files packages) should be it’s own project.

Anyway, my 2¢

Yours,
Christian

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I thought I had, in this post.

My aim is to be much less interventionist than we are presently. You describe something that to me appears to require much more admin effort but then you go on to say it would require less. I don’t understand this. Would you explain further, as it doesn’t make sense to me on that point.

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I don’t think you formulated a policy. You said

This essentially amounts to “what ever people want”, which I fear will lead to chaos.

I get that, and I commend that goal.

In the current foreseen scheme it is not clear to me if there are two separate sets of developers (a and b) that work on the same Game - say game G.

If the two sets of developers cannot come together - for example because a is dormant or similar, then it seems to me that b would need to create a new project. Thus, you will end up with two projects a and b both relating to game G.

Both projects a and b will have the same game information (publisher, duration, tags, …) but this information is not shared between them in the database. If you want these two projects to be somewhat in sync it will take a major effort on the admins part because the two projects are silo’d.

Furthermore, when a user searches for game G, the front-end will then present two choices a and b and the user will have no idea that these two are both implementing G and what is not implementing another game - say GG. This makes it very confusing for the users.

Note that this is not “academic” - in the current draft database you have two projects that implement the same game Samurai Battles

In fact, there are many more in the old (and presumably new) library:

 94146 57th Panzer Korps
       Winter Storm: 57th Pz Korps Attempt to Relieve Stalingrad
 43691 Advanced Delve Dice
       Delve: The Dice Game
  3044 Air Assault on Crete
       Invasion of Malta: 1942
271852 Apocalypse: World War II in Europe
       Apocalypse Europe: WWII
  4252 Arden
       Bulge: The Battle for the Ardennes 16 Dec. '44-2 Jan. '45
  8722 BAOR
       Central Front Series
 10641 Barbarossa: Army Group South, 1941
       GMT East Front Series Volume I
225909 Burning Mountains
       Inferno sugli Altipiani, 1916
  2795 Car Wars
       Car Wars Deluxe Edition
 13532 Case Blue / Guderian's Blitzkrieg II
       Guderian's Blitzkrieg II
    97 Conquest of the Empire
       Conquest of the Empire: Imperator
  1506 Conquistador: The Age of Exploration
       Consequential
 22359 Das Boot: Der deutsche U-Bootkrieg, 1939-1943
       Steel Wolves: The German Submarine Campaign Against Allied Shipping - Vol 1
122588 Dungeon Command
       Dungeon Command: Sting of Lolth
220133 Endangered
       Enemy Action:Ardennes
   715 Escape From Colditz
       La Fuga de Coldit
 62291 Fatal Alliances: The Great War
       Fatal Alliances III Dreadnoughts in Flames
277123 Fighter Duel
       Fighter Duel Lite
376104 Firebirds: Huey
       Firebirds: Huey (OH-6A)
202989 Flying Colors
       Under the Southern Cross: The South American Republics in the Age of the Fighting Sail
 23312 Free At Last
       Free at Last
 21551 GBoH Interactive Map
       S.P.Q.R. Deluxe
  6928 GMT East Front Series Volume II
       Typhoon!
  4364 Gaines Mill
       The Battles of the Seven Days
  6938 Global War
       Global War: The War Against Germany and Japan, 1939-45
  2932 Hnefatafl
       King's Table
 12002 Jambo
       Jambo +1st/2nd expansions
  2487 La Casa de los Fantasmas
       Why
 11512 Leipzig: The Battle of Nations – Napoleon vs. Europe
       Lepanto
 25727 Lock 'n Load: A Day of Heroes
       Lock 'n Load Tactical: Day of Heroes
 99573 Lock 'n Load: Heroes of the Pacific
       Lock 'n Load Tactical: Heroes of the Pacific
168274 Mistfall
       Mistsmall: Mistfall in Your Pocket
  5035 PanzerArmee Afrika: Rommel in the Desert, April 1941 - November 1942
       Panzer Armee Afrika
  8329 Pegasus Bridge
       Pegasus Bridge: The Beginning of D-Day - June 6, 1944
       Pensacola, 1781
234259 Rommel
       Rommel (2017)
 60386 Tactiques Napoleon - Auerstadt
       Tactiques Napoleon - Battle of Eckmuhl, April 21st 1809
       Tactiques Napoleon - Raszyn
       Tactiques Napoleon - Tamames
       Tactiques Napoleon - Teugn-Hausen
  4084 The Alamo
       The Alamo: Victory in Death
  8719 The Next War
       The Next War: Modern Conflict in Europe
 32234 The War At Sea (first edition)
       War At Sea
 20627 Warplan: Dropshot III - Endgames
       Warplan: Dropshot II - The Turbulent '60s
  6770 Yom Kippur
       Yom Kippur (1983)

First number is BGG identifier. This is an auto-generated list, so it may be wrong in certain places. Nevertheless it illustrates the problem.

The point is that

  • There is a many-to-one relationship between developer (groups) and games
  • There is a one-to-one relationship between developer (groups) and projects
  • There is a many-to-one relationship between projects and games
    (and a many-to-one relationship between packages and projects)

Another way to say this, is that games are not tied to a specific developer (group), but projects are. If you do not capture this in your database, I fear that it will become very confusing to the the users and will create additional work for admins to sort out the possible mess.

Thus, I propose

  • Create a Game table in the database. Entries into this are managed by the admins. Ideally, this could be based on a BGG look-up. E.g., a user requests a new game, enters the BGG identifier, and the front-end queries BGG for information (title, duration, players, year, publisher, …)

    • When a user searches for a game, then this page is what is presented. On that page is also a list of current projects under that game together will a summary text for each project (and possibly maintainers of the project).

  • On the game page, there’s a Add project button. When a user clicks that, the user is
    expected to put in

    • The project title
    • Summary text of project
    • Possible additional users to register as maintainers of the project

    The admins may then need to OK that project creation, or it could be left open.

    Projects without packages could be deleted after some time.

    Users that are registered as maintainers of a project are registered as contributors to the Game.

  • If a user (or developer) clicks the project title, then the front-end takes the user to a new project specific page. On this page, there’s a button labelled Add package. When the Package maintainer clicks that, the package maintainer will need to enter

    • Package title
    • Possibly a short summary
    • Possibly other users (except project maintainers) that may contribute to the project.

    The package is made automatically without admin interference.

    Packages with no files will be deleted after some time.

  • Under a package there’s a button Add file, and when the contributor clicks that, it will allow uploading of a file to the package. The user is expected to give

    • A file to upload
    • Possible target file name
    • File version or 0.0.0 for un-versioned files.

    Project maintainers are notified and are expected to validate the upload. If project maintainers fails to reject harmful files (viruses and the like), then those maintainers will be sanctioned.

In this scheme, the admins need only create Game entries, and depending on your temperament, OK project creations or file uploads. Creation of Game entries can be vastly simplified and streamlined by querying BGG. In the case that the game does not have a BGG entry, then a bit more work has to be done, the user requesting the Game creation should provide sufficient information.

A tentative structure can be found here.

In the current proposed scheme, it seems to me that a developer could create a project - say My fantastic modules - with a bunch of packages underneath - say Napoleonic Wars, American Civil War, WWI, WWII, WWIII, Uno, Catan, Hearts, and so on, which will surely be somewhat confusing to the users. What I propose is, instead of one project, such a developer will have projects sub-ordinate to the games. A user page may of course give an overview of all the games and projects a user has contributed to, if that is desired.

You say “You describe something that to me appears to require much more admin effort”. Perhaps it would be good if you could outline (a la above) how exactly projects, packages, etc. are created and how users will be presented with the result of search queries. I think that could perhaps clear up any misunderstands on my part. Thanks.

Anyways, those are my 2¢

Yours,
Christian

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I think that is extra workload on admins. How about making it possible for developers to create a game entry themselves by filling in a form that creates the entry on the basis of BGG? If the entry already exists, the new developer could be referred to the existing page - where she could create a new project.

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Here are the T’s from “thi” to the end.
@jrwatts How far have you got in the beginning of the T’s. The latest I could see is that you wanted to do from the beginning to “Terrible Swift Sword”…This leaves a hole from “ter” to “the”.

Thirty Years War
Thirty Years War Quad
The same game as “Thirty Years Quad”, but the old entry contains modules for each individual game, including a 5th game “Breitenfeld”. However, all modules except the first is missing in the new entry. Old and new entries are missing a title image
Thirty Years War: Europe in Agony, 1618 - 1648
The latest version 1.3b is labelled 0.0.0 and is placed at the bottom.
This Accursed Civil War
The old entry consists of a module for each game in this box, but they are also at different versions. This has confused the conversion algorithm so that three game modules are missing, and they are arranged together under the version numbers, even though they are not descendants of each other
This Guilty Land
This Hallowed Ground
This Terrible Sound
Thoughtwave
Three Battles of Manassas
Three Days of Glory 1805
There are three individual modules here, but only one has made it into the new entry
Throne of Allegoria
Through the Ages: A Story of Civilization
Through the Breach
The contact email at the end of the Comments (now Readme) has been lost
Thud and Blunder
Thud Ridge: A Solitaire Game of the Air War over North Vietnam
Thunder Alley
v2.01 is called 2.1 but it probably does not matter.
Thunder at Cassino
Thunder at the Crossroads (2nd Edition)
Thunder on the Mississippi: Grant’s Vicksburg Campaign
Thunder Road: Vendetta
Large title image.
Thunderbolt / Apache Leader
Thunderstone
Has no module in the old entry, and there is no new entry. Probably right so.
Tic Tac Chec
v1.0 is called 0.0
Tic-Tac-Toe
One module (TicTacToe.vmod) missing.
Ticket to Ride Map Collection: Volume 3 – The Heart of Africa
The single player Ideocrat is missing-
Ticket to Ride: Europe
The single player Ideocrat is missing.
Tide Of Iron
The entire section “Module Information” is missing from the new entry. The many .vmdx files that are tied to two of the module versions, are as usual separated from the parent module. This problem exists practically with every game with other files than modules.
Tigers In The Mist
The version number of v00b089 is set to 0.0.0
Tigris & Euphrates
The comments included in the “File Type” column have been lost (including the “Don’t use” for v4.1)
Tiles and Figs
v1.0 is called 0.3.0
Time of Crisis
The version number have been slightly changed, e.g 1.02 is called 1.2.
Timetripper
Tinian: The Forgotten Battle
Tiny Epic Galaxies
The single player Ideocrat is missing.
TINYforming Mars
Package is empty: Both files have been lost in the new entry.
Titan
Titan Strike!
Title Bout
To Be King
This page should probably be deleted. There is no module in the old entry, and the website that is referred to has been discontinued.
To Take Washington: Jubal Early’s Summer 1864 Campaign
To The Far Shore
To the Green Fields Beyond: The Battle of Cambrai, 1917
To The Last Man
Tobruk: Tank Battles in North Africa 1942
Tokyo Express
Most modules have been lost: only v0.9 (called 0.0.0) and v0.95 present. V0.96, 0.97, 0.98, and 0.99 are missing.
Tomb Raider
Tomorrow the World
Tonkin: The Indochina war 1950-54 (2nd edition)
Tonnage War Solitaire
Too many Bones
Torch
Torgau
Torgau 1760
Total War
v05a is called 0.0.0
Totaler Krieg!
TotalerKrieg.zip that apparently contains v1.53 is here listed under files as v0.0.0
Totaler Krieg! (2nd Edition) / Dai Senso
Complicated structure in the old entry that has not converted well: Under "Earlier versions prior to Totaler Krieg! 2nd edition and Dai Senso (2010) " the modules TK2_no_maps.vmod and TK2_base_1_00.vmod are missing. The heading "Original Game Files for Totaler Krieg! 2nd Edition plus Dai Senso (2010) " is gone. V9.0.7 is now 0.0.0. The saved games have been detached from their modules.
Toulon, 1793
Tourcoing 1794
The images are not fetched in either entry.
Traces of Hubris
Traces of War
Trader
V1.0 is called 0.0.0.
Trafalgar
Trailblazer Starmap
V1.0 is called 0.2.0
Trajan: Ancient Wars Series Expansion Kit
Transformers Trading Card Game
v1.0.1 called 1.1.0
Trenches of Valor
v1.0 called 0.1.0
Trenton 1776
Triomphe á Marengo
Triple Topper
The old entry has 6 modules that are different games, all v1.0.2. The new entry has only three modules, with different versions (none of them 1.0.2) and they are arranged as if they are versions of the same game. However, the old entry may be in error with the versions, because the Comments section mentions a version 1.1 that exists in the new entry.
Trireme: Tactical Game of Ancient Naval Warfare 494 BC-370 AD
Triumph & Glory: Battles of the Napoleonic Wars 1796-1809
This game entry has no modules, and as the Comments say, the maintainer’s link is dead.
Triumph & Tragedy
The title image has been lost. An unfortunate version numbering (the early versions have v35 and 36, whereas the latest versions have v1.0 and 2.0) has placed the latest versions as older ones.
Triumph of Chaos
Triumph of Chaos v.2 (Deluxe Edition)
The latest version (with Japanese letters in the version in the file name) has been lost.
Triumph of the Will
Trivial Wars
No modules in the old entry, but a link that is inactive.
Trollland
v1.0 is called 0.0.0
Tsukuyumi:Full Moon Down
v1.0.3 is called 1.3
Tuf
Tuf-abet
TuiShou7
Tunisia
The usual conversion error of converting versions like 5.0.1 into 5.1.0.
Tunisia II
v1.10 has converted to 1.1.0 and has therefore ended out of the sequence between 1.09 and 1.11.
Tupamaro
Turncoats
Turning Point
v1.0 has been lost, and v1.01 has been called 1.0
Turning Point Stalingrad
v1.0 has been numbered 0.0.0
Turning Point: The Battle of Stalingrad
Twilight Imperium (third Edition)
v1.02 has been numbered 0.0.0
Twilight Imperium (third Edition): Shards of the Throne
There are two different v1.12 in the old entry. The one called TI3_Shards_8p_1.12.vmod is missing
Twilight Imperium (third Edition): Shattered Empire
v1.0 has been lost, whereas v0.99 has been numbered 0.0.0
Twilight Imperium: Fourth Edition
v1.42c has been numbered 4.0.0
Twilight Sparkle’s Secret Shipfic Folder
Lots of modules with many different groupings, all of which have been lost. For instance, three modules from “Beta versions” have been put together with the latest version 1.1.5a (put at the bottom) and v1.0.2, whereas another beta has got its own group. Among the groupings that have been lost are also the translations.
Twilight Struggle
The sequencing is not good, and there are some misnumbered 0.0.0, but in general the conversion has succeeded.
Twin Peaks
South Mountain 1.2 and 1.3 have been lost. There is an error in the old entry where what was supposed to be 2.21 is the same file as 2.20. This has been converted only once, which is fine.
Twixt
v1.2a (the latest) has been numbered 0.0.0
Two Deck Siege
The title image has been lost. V2.0 has been named 1.0
Typhoon!
Nonexistent module. Has not converted.
Tyros
The old entry has a note that v1.3 is unavailable. This has not gone into the conversion.
Türkenkrieg (1737-1739)

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That’s also a possibility - it all depends on how much control the admins want over the content of the game library. I assume they would like to have some control so as to not get swamped in content that has nothing to do with VASSAL.

A compromise would be that a user enters the BGG identifier into a form, and all the admins need to do is to OK that. Of course, if the game has no BGG entry, then additional information would need to be entered.

The main point, though, is that projects should be subordinate to a game as that’s what users search for and it minimises information duplication and thereby admin work and maintenance.

Yours,
Christian

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I’m going to check the “G” modules.

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Christian,

I totally agree with the identifier tag from BGG being the index we can use, however as you mentioned in defining the “Game” with the meta data you presented there will still be a conflict (which BGG has resolved/dismissed somehow) namely -the publisher…

Example Game - Up Front.

It has four publishers listed, none are wrong, and all are the same version. Obviously one is generally accepted as being the main source but that is no reason to dismiss the others.
How would this be resolved in your setup with regard to your meta data

I still like where you are going - I think it is the right approach to leverage BGG and their data and we do less

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Hi Tim,

In the BGG database the Game to publisher relation is a one-to-many relation, while in the VASSAL (current and future) database the relation is one-to-one. That is, indeed, a difference that proves something of a challenge.

What I did here was to use the VASSAL provided publisher. Try for example

./search.py "The Russian Campaign"

It will only list “Avalon Hill” as the publisher even though BGG lists 5 publishers, try

    from json import load
    with open('pages_bgg.json','r') as inp:
        j = load(inp)
    for k,d in j.items():
        if k == 'The Russian Campaign':
        print('\n'.join([f'{p["objectid"]:6s} {p["text"]}' 
                         for p in d['bgg']['boardgamepublisher']]))
        break

Unlike the BGG title, which can also be multitude for each game, BGG does not mark one publisher as the primary.

    from json import load
    with open('pages_bgg.json','r') as inp:
        j = load(inp)
    for k,d in j.items():
        if k == 'Up Front':
        print('\n'.join([f'{p["objectid"]:6s} {p["text"]}' 
                         for p in d['bgg']['boardgamepublisher']]))
        break

gives

5      The Avalon Hill Game Co
1391   Hobby Japan
23951  Radiant Gaming
13     Wizards of the Coast

Here, The Avalon Hill Game Co is obviously the main one.

I think the best way to deal with this, is to have possibly multiple publishers for each VASSAL game. The game page will then present a list of publishers (in no particular) order.

Of course, VASSAL could mark one publisher as the main publisher, but I’m not sure what the users gain from that, and it will create extra work for admins and project maintainers.

If a user searches the game library by publisher, it will make sense The Russian Campaign shows up when searching for L2 Design Group. In so far as a project or package is specific to a given publisher, I think that would best be represented by a tag a la publisher:L2 Design Group. Many modules (.vmod) does not necessarily use graphics from a specific publisher but use new graphics (which also gets you out of a copyright problem).

Perhaps some VASSAL admin should reach out to BGG and let them know that the VASSAL Game Library Service will like to use their data. Perhaps there’s an opportunitet to collaborate between the two platforms. For example, if BGG gets the VASSAL game identifier back, then BGG could add a link to the VASSAL GLS to the main page of the game :slight_smile:

Yours,
Christian

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I pulled out the version parsing code and am comparing what it produces with the existing results now. Thanks.

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Here are the results from “G” pages:-

G.I. Joe TCG

  • old lib has 2 modules with identical filenames, marked as version 1.0 & 1.5.1 according to section headings - only 1 module in new lib
  • 1 extension is only compatible with the later module but this info is not transferred to the new lib
  • Readme: link image missing

Gaines Mill

  • old lib says this is included in “The Battles of the Seven Days” module & has link
  • not in new lib

Galactic Adventures

  • module version number wrong

Galactic Emperor

  • module version number missing

Galaxy of D

  • module version number missing

Galleys & Galleons

  • module “Galleys_and_Galleons1_0_Fulles_Dades.vmod” version number missing

The Game of Shakespeare

  • missing - (Other modules by brian448) link

A Game of Thrones: The Board Game (Second Edition)

  • many different modules are mixed up in 1 Package - all the section headers which separate them in the old lib are moved to Readme (where they make no sense)
  • old lib has 2 modules named “AGOT2ED.vmod”, marked as version 1.3 & 1.1 according to section headings - only 1 of these modules in new lib
  • the following modules are missing:-
    • “Festin_de_Cuervos_ESP.vmod‎”
    • “GameofThrones_9players_v.1.0_ENG.vmod”
    • “GameofThrones_9players_v.1.0_ESP.vmod”
    • “GameOfThrones_and_DanceWithDragons_v1.42_ESP.vmod”
    • “GameOfThrones_v1.31.vmod”
    • “Game_of_Thrones_-MULTI-_v1.0.vmod”
  • module “GameOfThrones_v1.1.vmod” wrong version number
  • module “Juego de Tronos Estrategia.VMOD” version number missing

Gandhi: The Decolonization of British India, 1917 – 1947

  • module “Gandhi_1.1 shorter map.vmod” version number missing

GD '42

  • module “GD42_v1_5mac.vmod” version number missing

Gears of War: The Board Game

  • module “Gears of War.vmod” missing
  • module “Gears_of_War_-_Updated_with_5_Custom_COGs_and_one_Custom_mission.vmod” version number wrong
  • extension has lost connection to host module

Gergovie

  • missing - (Other modules by Alecrespi) link

German Fleet Boats

  • old lib says this is included in “Steel Wolves” module & has link
  • not in new lib

Germania

  • module version number missing

Germania: Drusus’ Campaigns 12-9 BC

  • missing - (Other modules by brian448) link

Get to the Chopper!!!

  • missing - (Other modules by brian448) link

Gettysburg 150

  • module “Gettysburg150-Ver-1-1.vmod” version number wrong

Gettysburg 1863

  • modules “Gettysburg 1863 1.1.vmod”, “G88v33b10.vmod”, “G88v33b11.vmod” & “G88v34.vmod” wrong version numbers
  • save game file has lost connection to host module

Gettysburg: Badges of Courage

  • module “Gettysburg-v3b02.vmod” is in separate Package & missing version number

Ghost Stories: B-Rice Lee,
Ghost Stories: Chuck No-Rice,
Ghost Stories: Jean-Claude Van Rice,
Ghost Stories: The Guardhouse Expansion,
Ghost Stories: The Village People Expansion &
Ghost Stories: White Moon

  • old lib says these are included in base module (Ghost Stories) & has link
  • not in new lib

GI: Anvil of Victory

  • old lib says these are included in base module (Squad Leader) & has link
  • not in new lib

Gladiator

  • module “Gladiator_draft.vmod” missing
  • module “Gladiator.vmod” version number wrong

Global War &
Global War: The War Against Germany and Japan, 1939-45

  • these appear to be the same game but have 2 entries in the old & new libs
  • 1 of the modules (Global War_v30.vmod) appears in both entries in both libs

Gloomhaven

  • 14 major module versions all have 0-7 extensions each, all these extensions are now together in one Files section - only the designers careful file naming and versioning make it possible to tell which goes with which
  • all extensions are missing compatibility data
  • modules “Gloomhaven_5Player_V3.1.vmod”, “Gloomhaven_5Player_V2.3.vmod”, “Gloomhaven_5Player_V2.2.vmod”, “Gloomhaven_5Player_V2.1.vmod” & “Gloomhaven_5Player_V1.3.vmod” missing
  • files linked in old Comments section now included in new Files section

GMT East Front Series Volume I

  • modules “BAG_S_v1.42.vmod”, “BAG_S_v1.41.vmod”, “BAG_S_v1.40.vmod”, “BAGSCN_v1.31.vmod” & “BAGSCN_v1.3.vmod” wrong version numbers

GMT East Front Series Volume II

  • modules “BAG_CN_v1.43.vmod”, “BAG_CN_v1.42.vmod”, “BAG_CN_v1.41.vmod” & “BAG_CN_v1.40.vmod” wrong version numbers

Gnadenlos!

  • red box text missing

Go

  • module version number missing

Go For The Green

  • missing - (Other modules by brian448) link

Goblin

  • red box text missing

God’s Playground

  • module version number wrong

Gosix

  • module version numbers wrong

Gospitch & Ocaña 1809

  • modules “Ocana JDG.vmod”, “Ocana JDG 1.1.vmod”, “Ocana JDG 1.2 .vmod” & “Ocana JDG 1.4.vmod” missing

Gosu

  • module version number wrong

Gothic Invasion

  • missing - (Other modules by Alecrespi) link

Grand Fleet

  • red box text missing

Grant Takes Command

  • module “GTC_3_03_Beta.vmod” version number missing

Grav Armor

  • missing - (Other modules by Mycenae) link

Great Battles of Alexander: Deluxe Edition

  • modules “GBoADE1_2.vmod” & “GBoA.vmod” missing
  • module “GBoACollection(6.6).Vmod” version number missing
  • Readme: bold text is not rendered as bold in new lib

Great Battles of Julius Caesar: Deluxe Edition

  • Readme: bold text is not rendered as bold in new lib

The Great Heathen Army

  • module “TGHA v1,21.vmod” has wrong version number - Files section layout and dates in the old lib make this clear, but this information is not present in the new lib. Also, in the new lib, the latest version (1.3) is in the “Older releases” dropdown

Great Medieval Battles: Four Battles from the Middle Ages

  • modules “GMB_Bannockburn v1.vmod”, “GMB_BlackPrince v1-1.vmod”, “GMB_KingArthur v1-2.vmod”, “GMB_Tamburlaine v1.vmod” & “GMB_Tamburlaine v1-1.vmod” missing

The Great War in Europe: Deluxe Edition

  • module “Great+war+in+Europe+v0.92d.vmod” version number missing

The Great War

  • module “CCTheGreatWar-2.0.vmod” in separate Package

The Greatest Day: Sword, Juno, and Gold Beaches

  • Files: wrong version numbers - should correspond to module versions
  • module versions 1.9.4 to 1.9.6 have lost compatibility data
  • missing - (Other modules by Brent Easton) link

Greek Dark Age

  • old lib: module not uploaded, new lib: no Packages

Grenadier: Tactical Warfare 1680-1850

  • module has wrong version number

Guadalcanal

  • module has no version number

Guam: Return to Glory

  • module “Guam_v090.Vmod” has no version number

Guild Ball

  • there appears to be 2 different files named “GBControls.zip” only 1 of which is in the new lib
  • modules “GB2.01x8.vmod”, “GB4.63a.vmod” & “GB4.64a.vmod” are in separate Packages with missing or incorrect version numbers

Gulf Strike

  • too many Packages

The Guns of August

  • too many Packages
  • modules “GoAv10b18a.vmod” & “GOAv1001.vmod” missing
  • extension “GoA_Rails.vmdx” has lost compatibility data
  • all modules except “GoA_v11.vmod” have missing or incorrect version numbers
  • latest module “GoA_v11.vmod” is placed in “Older releases” dropdown

Gunslinger

  • module “Gunslinger_v_1.9.4DC.vmod” version number missing
  • modules “Gunslinger_v_1.9.3DC.vmod”, “Gunslinger_v_1.5.2.vmod” & “Gunslinger.vmod” missing
  • modules “Gunslinger_v_1.5.3.vmod”, “Gunslinger_Reloaded-Español-English_v_1.7.0.vmod” version numbers wrong
  • modules “Gunslinger_Reloaded-Español-English_v_1.6.1.vmod” & “Gunslinger_Reloaded-Español-English_v_1.4.0.vmod” in wrong Package
  • Players: “davidk64” missing

Gustav Adolf the Great: With God and Victorious Arms

  • modules “GAtG-Breitenfeld.vmod”, “GAtG-AlteVeste.vmod” & “GAtG-Luetzen.vmod” missing
  • module “Gustav Adolf The Great v0.3.vmod” version number wrong
  • too few Packages (there a 5 different modules here)

Görlitz 20

  • green box text & image not rendered correctly
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Observations:

  • The pre coming from this is never really part of the version:
    if m is not None and len(m.groups()) >= 1:
        pre = ('-' + m[1].strip().replace('-', '')) if len(m[1]) > 0 else ''
        base = m[2].strip()
  • Any pre of 30 characters or more is never really part of the verision.
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I’m ready to check the “H” modules.

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75

Hi Joel,

The code in get_vmod_info.py (a slight misnomer) is not intended to be omnipotent. That’s why the code in get_vmod_info.py allows for an external file with overrides (e.g., files_override.json) to catch cases where the automatic parsing fails. The overrides file is automatically updated with entries when the code cannot parse a version string, and the user can then edit that file (search for unknown) to specify the correct version.

The file files_meta.json contains the result of the version and file parsing. To see the converted version strings, do

from json import load

with open('files_meta.json','r') as f:
    j = load(f)
 
v = {f['version']: f['semVersion'] for f in j.values() if 'version' in f}

print(f'| {"From file":20s} {"Parsed":20s} '*2+'|')
print(f'|{"-"*43}'*2+'|\n|',end='',flush=True)
o=0
for i,(r,s) in enumerate(v.items()):
    l = f' {r:20s} {s:20s} |'
    if o+len(l) > 100:
        print('\n|',end='',flush=True)
        o = 0
    o += len(l)
    print(l,end='',flush=True)

Sure there are some problematic conversion, but it is easily fixable by adding entries to files_override.json. The point is to stage the conversion, so that the code - which cannot ever get it right all the time - can be assisted by a human in a simple and straight forward way :slight_smile:

Yours,
Christian

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Here are the “H” module results:-

Hackopoly

  • no module in old lib & no author/designer listed
  • no entry in new lib
  • game does not appear in BoardGameGeek DB

Hadrian’s Line

  • no sign of any version number in old lib but new lib has assigned “0.5.0”

Halebarde & Gonfanon

  • module version number missing

Hammer of the Scots

  • module “HammerOfTheScots_v9.0b.vmod” is in separate Package & missing version number

Hanau 1813

  • module “Hanau_JDG_1.4.vmod” version number wrong

Hands in the Sea

  • too many Packages (there are only 2 different modules)
  • module “Hands-in-the-sea-V 1-0Basic.vmod” version number missing

Hannibal: Rome vs. Carthage

  • module “Hannibal_en_español.vmod” version number wrong
  • save files have lost connection to their modules
  • Players: “davidk64” missing

Hannibal: The Italian Campaign

  • module “PW95-Hannibal_1.01.vmod” version number wrong

Havannah

  • module version number missing

Heights of Courage

  • Players: “Alex Carmel” missing

Heirs of the Golden Horde

  • old lib says this is an extension to base module & has link
  • no entry in new lib

Hellfire Pass

  • module version number missing

Helltank
missing - (Other modules by Mycenae) link

Helltank Destroyer

  • old lib says this is included in base module & has link
  • no entry in new lib

Hera and Zeus

  • module version number missing

Here Come the Rebels

  • module “Here Come the Rebels 1.5.vmod” version number wrong

HeroClix

  • module version number missing

Heroes of Feonora

  • missing - (Other modules by brian448) link

Heroes of New Phlan

  • missing - (Other modules by brian448) link

HeroQuest

  • Players: “davidk64” missing

Hexagony

  • missing - (Other modules by brian448) link

Hey! That’s My Fish!

  • no module in old lib, no entry in new lib

Hibernia

  • module version number missing

The High Crusade

  • missing - (Other modules by brian448) link

High Frontier

  • extensions (marked “Required”) have lost connection to their modules
  • all files are present but I doubt complete versions prior to 2.7.0 could be assembled

High Trader (Pbem / Forum tool only)

  • module version number missing

Highway to the Kremlin

  • red box text missing

Highway to the Reich: Operation Market-Garden 17-26 September 1944 – 2nd Edition

  • module “HttR_v1.50.vmod” missing
  • module “HttR_v1.1.vmod” version number wrong

Hitler’s Reich

  • module “Hitlers_Reich_1.3.vmod” missing
  • modules “Hitlers_Reich_1.1a.vmod” & “Hitlers_Reich_1.4.vmod” version numbers wrong

Hitler’s War

  • too few Packages
  • save game files (applicable only to Hitlers Global War) have lost connection to the host module
  • section headers from the old Files moved to the new Readme section

Hof Gap

  • old lib has standalone module AND includes link to base module
  • new lib has standalone module but link is broken

Hold the Line: Bella Gerant Alii

  • module version numbers wrong

Holdfast: Tunisia 1942-43

  • module version number missing

Homestead

  • module “Homestead-1.1.vmod” version number wrong

Hoplite

  • new lib: image missing from title box
  • module “Hoplite.vmod” missing
  • module “Hoplite101.vmod” version number wrong

Hoppers

  • old lib: module not uploaded, new lib: no Packages

Horse & Musket: Dawn of an Era

  • module “Horse & Musket Volume 1 - Dawn of an Era 1.2a.vmod” version number missing

Horse & Musket: Sport of Kings

  • module “Horse & Musket Volume 2 - Sport of Kings 1.1a.vmod” version number missing

Horseless Carriage

  • Comments section header missing - old Comments dropped into new Change Log

Hot Spot

  • missing - (Other modules by brian448) link

A House Divided

  • too many Packages
  • modules “ahd_v01.vmod”, “ahd_v02.vmod”, “ahd_v03.vmod” & “ahd_v05e.vmod” version numbers missing

The Hunters: German U-Boats at War, 1939-43

  • module “The_Hunters_-Public-3a.vmod” version number missing
  • extension has lost connection to the host module

Huuue!

  • module version number missing

Huzzah! Four Battles of the American Civil War Vol. 1

  • red box text missing

Hyle

  • missing - (Other modules by brian448) link
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I will check modules beginning “I” & “J”.

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Results from Modules beginning “I” & “J”:-

Iberos

  • module “Iberos.vmod” version number missing
  • missing - (Other modules by Alecrespi) link

Iena 1806

  • module “Iena_JDG_1.4.vmod” version number wrong

IJN

  • old lib says this is an extension to a base module (Silent War) & gives link
  • no entry in new lib

Ikusa

  • Players: “davidk64” missing

Iliad

  • module version number missing

Illuminati

  • module version number missing

Illuminati Endgame 2012

  • module “IlluminatiEndgame2012_v1.3.vmod” version number wrong

Imperial Struggle

  • too many Packages
  • modules “Imperial_Struggle_v2.21_NN32.vmod” & “Imperial_Struggle_v2.21_NN33.vmod” version numbers wrong
  • modules “Imperial_Struggle_3.0.6.vmod” & “Imperial_Struggle_3.1.2.vmod” version numbers wrong
  • missing modules:-
    • Imperial_Struggle_3.0.vmod
    • Imperial_Struggle_3.0.2.vmod
    • Imperial_Struggle_3.0.3.vmod
    • Imperial_Struggle_3.0.4.vmod
    • Imperial_Struggle_3.0.5.vmod
    • Imperial_Struggle_3.1.vmod
    • Imperial_Struggle_3.1.1.vmod

Imperium

  • file “Version_1.06_Readme.txt” has lost link to associated module
  • Players: “davidk64” & “Bobblanchett” missing

In Their Quiet Fields II

  • save game file (and others) has lost link to associated module

Inception - Solo card game

  • title image missing
  • module version number wrong

Infidel

  • too few Packages (there are 6 individual battles represented)
  • missing modules:-
    • Infidel Dorylaeum v3.02.vmod
    • Infidel Harran v3.02.vmod
    • Infidel Montgisard v3.0.vmod
    • Arsuf.vmod
    • Dorylaeum.vmod
    • Montgisard.vmod

Infinity: A Skirmish Game

  • modules “InfinityVassalModule.0_94.vmod” & “Infinity v0.4.vmod” version numbers wrong
  • 1 screenshot missing

Intruder

  • red box text missing
  • new lib: no entry

The Invasion of Russia (1812)

  • module “TIR_v1_2a.vmod” missing

Invasion of the Air-Eaters

  • module “aireaters002.vmod” missing
  • module “aireaters006.vmod” version number missing

Invasion: America – Death Throes of the Superpower

  • module “Invasion_America_v2.01.vmod” missing
  • module “IA.vmod” version number missing

Invasion: Malta

  • Readme: <b>xxxx</b> text has not been set to bold

Iron Tide: Panzers in the Ardennes

  • module “Iron_Tide_for_VASSAL_110.zip” version number wrong

Island Emergency

  • title image missing

Island of D

  • missing - (Other modules by brian448) link

Island Of D 2: The Shadow of Dawn

  • module version number wrong

Island War: Four Pacific Battles

  • modules “Island_War_Leyete_V05.vmod”, “Island_War_Okinawa_v05.vmod” & “Island_War_Saipan_v01.vmod” have incorrect version numbers

It Never Snows

  • module “SCS-INS-4-4-0.vmod” version number wrong

ITACS

  • modules “ITACS-Asia-0.2.vmod”, “ITACS-Asia-0.3.vmod”, “ITACS-Medieval-0.2.vmod” & “ITACS-Medieval-0.3.vmod” missing

Italia

  • module “ItaliaGame 01.vmod” version number missing

Italia 1917-1918: A Farewell to Arms

  • no entry in new lib

Ivanhoe

  • no entry in new lib

Iwo Jima - Rage Against the Marines

  • missing - (Other modules by Brent Easton) link

IwoJima

  • module “IwojimaSomnium.vmod” version number wrong

— J —

Jambo +1st/2nd expansions

  • module version number wrong

Jambo Expansion & Expansion 2

  • old lib say “included as part of this base module” & gives link
  • new lib has no entry

Jasper and Zot

  • missing - (Other modules by brian448) link

John Prados’ Third Reich

  • red box text missing (no modules in old lib)
  • no entry in new lib

Julius Caesar

  • module “Julius Caesar 3 1.a.vmod” version number wrong

Justinian

  • module version number missing

[edit]
24th Sept:
@uckelman - It seems to have gone very quiet. I will continue - if this is still useful to you.
[/edit]

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I was away for four days. Finishing this is still my priority. Everything else is in line behind this project.

I’m partway through reviewing odd module version numbers, myself. (I have 184 remaining which are problematic.)

80

I will check modules beginning with “K”.

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81

Results from modules beginning with “K”:-

Kahmaté

  • module version number wrong

The Kaiser’s Pirates

  • too many Packages

Kazaam

  • red box text missing (says module availability unknown)
  • new lib: no Packages

Kellogg’s Major League Baseball Game

  • missing - (Other modules by brian448) link

Kerbal Card Program

  • module version number wrong

Khas

  • module version number missing

The Killing Ground

  • too many Packages
  • module “OVKG-2.0a.vmod” version number missing

King’s Table

  • missing - (Other modules by brian448) link

Kingmaker

  • Players: “davidk64” missing

Klin Zha

  • module version number missing

Knight Hawks

  • missing - (Other modules by Mycenae) link

Knights of the Air

  • screenshot not rendered correctly

Knights of the Dinner Table: Orcs at the Gates

  • missing - (Other modules by brian448) link

Kon-tiki

  • Readme: flag graphics not rendered correctly

Korea: The Forgotten War

  • too many Packages
  • module “Korea_v4_25_rc4.vmod” version number wrong

Korsun Pocket

  • missing - (Other modules by KevOs4) link

Krazy Wordz

  • red box text missing (says module removed)
  • new lib: no Packages

Kreta 1941

  • red box text missing (says module availability unknown)
  • new lib: no Packages

Kursk: History’s Greatest Tank Battle, July 1943

  • module version number missing
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