Game Piece Palette Freeze

[Kim]

I’m running Vassal 2.9.9 on a Mac. The application freezes whenever I try to add a second Game Piece Palette to a module.

Is this a bug, or is there some preparation necessary before adding a second palette?

[tar]

On Mar 6, 2009, at 8:28 AM, Kim wrote:

I’m running Vassal 2.9.9 on a Mac. The application freezes whenever
I try to add a second Game Piece Palette to a module.

Is this a bug, or is there some preparation necessary before adding
a second palette?

Seems to work for me.

How are you running/starting Vassal?

I just downloaded the 2.9 version from the archived Web and started it
with the shell script.
What are you running with?

Do you know how much memory is allocated to Vassal?

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[Kim]

@tar

How are you running/starting Vassal?

I just downloaded the 2.9 version from the archived Web and started it
with the shell script.
What are you running with?

I run it by clicking the application’s icon in the Dock. The version I use was downloaded from http://software.pelican.org/vassal/

Do you know how much memory is allocated to Vassal?

Haven’t a clue. How do I determine that?

What I did just try was having a look at one of the modules on the Vassal website which does use more than one Game Piece Palette. Battlelore was the one.

I stripped everything from that bar the two palettes, and re-added the other necessary elements. That worked, allowing two Game Piece Pallettes. The only thing which seemed odd was that it took quite a while to save each step. Usually, saving between adding elements is fast.

Yet, when I again tried building a new module from scatch, it froze as soon as I tried adding a second palette.

[tar]

On Mar 6, 2009, at 10:04 AM, Kim wrote:

tar wrote:

How are you running/starting Vassal?

I just downloaded the 2.9 version from the archived Web and started
it
with the shell script.
What are you running with?

I run it by clicking the application’s icon in the Dock. The version
I use was downloaded from software.pelican.org/vassal/

Odd.
I just downloaded that version and it seemed to run fine.

Do you know how much memory is allocated to Vassal?

Haven’t a clue. How do I determine that?

What I did just try was having a look at one of the modules on the
Vassal website which does use more than one Game Piece Palette.
Battlelore was the one.

I stripped everything from that bar the two palettes, and re-added
the other necessary elements. That worked, allowing two Game Piece
Pallettes. The only thing which seemed odd was that it took quite a
while to save each step. Usually, saving between adding elements is
fast.

Yet, when I again tried building a new module from scatch, it froze
as soon as I tried adding a second palette.

Can you tell us a bit more about your system?
What kind of Mac, which version of the operating system?

When I try it on my machine, I’m able to create a simple little module
with multiple palettes and a simple board. I didn’t get very far in
trying to create actual pieces, but adding multiple palettes didn’t
cause any problems.

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[Kim]

@tar

Can you tell us a bit more about your system?
What kind of Mac, which version of the operating system?

It’s an eMac 800 MHz PowerPC G4, with 640 MB SDRAM.

When I try it on my machine, I’m able to create a simple little module
with multiple palettes and a simple board. I didn’t get very far in
trying to create actual pieces, but adding multiple palettes didn’t
cause any problems.

Were you able to name any of those palettes?

[tar]

@Kim

@tar

Can you tell us a bit more about your system?
What kind of Mac, which version of the operating system?

It’s an eMac 800 MHz PowerPC G4, with 640 MB SDRAM.

Which operating system version?
And if you know it, which java version?

When I try it on my machine, I’m able to create a simple little module
with multiple palettes and a simple board. I didn’t get very far in
trying to create actual pieces, but adding multiple palettes didn’t
cause any problems.

Were you able to name any of those palettes?

Yes.
I didn’t add any counters to the palettes, but they do have names.

See the module attached here.

[timpelican]

Kim wrote:

I just downloaded the 2.9 version from the archived Web and started
it with the shell script. What are you running with?

I run it by clicking the application’s icon in the Dock. The version
I use was downloaded from software.pelican.org/vassal/

Eep. I’d forgotten that was still there. If you have a new enough
version of OS X and Java, you can download the newest version direct
from the VASSAL web-site - the software.pelican.org site is now
archive-only.

I’ve updated the wiki and left a README in the archive to make sure Mac
users aren’t using an old version unnecessarily. I’ll leave the archive
up, though, to help with users stuck at Java 1.4.

Regards,
Tim.

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[Kim]

@tar

Which operating system version?
And if you know it, which java version?

Panther 10.3.9
Java is 1.4.2_12, which is the latest version Apple has available for Panther.

See the module attached here.

Sadly, Vassal gives me an error message when I try to open your module.

[Kim]

@timpelican

If you have a new enough
version of OS X and Java, you can download the newest version direct
from the VASSAL web-site

Sadly, I’m stuck with Java 1.4.2_12 at the moment.

[tar]

On Mar 6, 2009, at 3:40 PM, Kim wrote:

@tar

Which operating system version?
And if you know it, which java version?

Panther 10.3.9
Java is 1.4.2_12, which is the latest version Apple has available
for Panther.

I’ll see if I can find some time to look using a 10.3.9 machine (G3)

Based on the Specs, you should be able to move to the Tiger OS
(10.4.x), even if you can’t get it directly from Apple.
Oddly enough, you can get 10.5 for less than 10.4 right now… And
Leopard only works on the 1Gz & up G4 eMac.

I have seen a rumor that if you call the Apple store, it may be
possible to still buy older OS versions, even if they aren’t on the
website.

See the module attached here.

Sadly, Vassal gives me an error message when I try to open your
module.

Did it get expanded from gzip format first?

Unfortunately the forum doesn’t allow .vmod files to be uploaded…

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[Kim]

@tar

I’ll see if I can find some time to look using a 10.3.9 machine (G3)

Sorry to out you to this trouble.

Based on the Specs, you should be able to move to the Tiger OS
(10.4.x), even if you can’t get it directly from Apple.

Thanks for the advice, but it really isn’t an option just now.

Did it get expanded from gzip format first?

Yes. I tried various methods of opening it. but Vassal responds with either Not a VASSAL module or Error in opening zip file.

[uckelman]

Thus spake Thomas Russ:

Unfortunately the forum doesn’t allow .vmod files to be uploaded…

I’ve added .vmod, .vsav, and .vlog as allowable file types on the the
new forum, so once we switch, it will be possible to upload those.

–
J.

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[Kim]

@tar

See the module attached here.

Sorry, realised where I was going wrong with opening your test module. I’ve now opened it in Vassal in Edit mode.

I can see your multiple palettes. And I can edit them. But Vassal freezes, just as before, if I try to add another palette to your module.

Puzzling, isn’t it?

[Kim]

@tar

See the module attached here.

Just realised you’ve solved the immediate problem by posting that test module. As I appear to be able to modify it, I can simply use that as the base module from which to build. Thank you.

[uckelman]

Thus spake Tim Franklin:

Kim wrote:

I just downloaded the 2.9 version from the archived Web and started
it with the shell script. What are you running with?

I run it by clicking the application’s icon in the Dock. The version
I use was downloaded from software.pelican.org/vassal/

Eep. I’d forgotten that was still there. If you have a new enough
version of OS X and Java, you can download the newest version direct
from the VASSAL web-site - the software.pelican.org site is now
archive-only.

I’ve updated the wiki and left a README in the archive to make sure Mac
users aren’t using an old version unnecessarily. I’ll leave the archive
up, though, to help with users stuck at Java 1.4.

Tim, would you mind if I grab those and add them to the release archive?

–
J.

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