No, I retained them
What if you install 3.7.4?
Do you want me to replace 3.7.5 with 3.7.4?
When your modules disappeared from the Module Manager before, did you keep other versions of Vassal or not?
I just added the new version and had two versions available. The modules disappeared from bothā¦
Ok. Please show me the following:
- A screenshot of the Module Manager from either version.
- The contents of the V_Global file now.
I havenāt installed 3.7.4⦠Do you want me to do this first?
I tried to install 3.7.4 but, for some reason I canāt get it to install it defaults to 3.6.17 and 3.7.5. So here is the Global look.
Bobs-Air:~ bobtrantin$ cat ā/Users/bobtrantin/Library/Application Support/VASSAL/prefs/V_Globalā
#Fri Dec 01 19:22:11 EST 2023
BoundsOfModuleManager=101,54,1339,783
HTMLChatColor=9,32,229
HTMLgameMessage1Color=0,0,0
HTMLgameMessage2Color=0,153,51
HTMLgameMessage3Color=255,102,102
HTMLgameMessage4Color=255,0,0
HTMLgameMessage5Color=153,0,153
HTMLotherChatColor=0,153,255
HTMLsystemMessageColor=160,160,160
Locale=en
Modules=/Users/bobtrantin/Downloads/OSG_1806-Rossbach - Vassal Module_0.vmod,/Users/bobtrantin/Downloads/1807_The_Eagles_Turn_East_1.1.1_v3.2.7.vmod,/Users/bobtrantin/Downloads/AFK-2.3.vmod,/Users/bobtrantin/Downloads/Air_Assault_on_Crete_2_02.vmod,/Users/bobtrantin/Downloads/Bitter_Woods_-_Designer_Edition_v2.6.vmod,/Users/bobtrantin/Downloads/Tricorne.1.4.vmod,/Users/bobtrantin/Downloads/CombatCommanderEurope-2.4.vmod,/Users/bobtrantin/Downloads/CombatCommanderPacific-1.7.1.vmod,/Users/bobtrantin/Downloads/CCSamuraiV1.41.vmod,/Users/bobtrantin/Downloads/D-Day-v3.0a.vmod,/Users/bobtrantin/Downloads/fw V2.96.vmod,/Users/bobtrantin/Downloads/Fortress-Europa-Compass-1.0.vmod,/Users/bobtrantin/Downloads/GreatWarCommander_v2-2.vmod,/Users/bobtrantin/Downloads/GuadMaster.vmod,/Users/bobtrantin/Downloads/Italia_v1.1.vmod,/Users/bobtrantin/Downloads/Luftwaffe_8_2.vmod,/Users/bobtrantin/Downloads/Midway_2_2.vmod,/Users/bobtrantin/Downloads/PanzerBlitz Deluxe Game Pack-5/PanzerBlitz-Deluxe.vmod,/Users/bobtrantin/Downloads/Panzergrenadier/Core_Data--Panzer_Grenadier_\u00C3\u009Cber_Base_Module-12.vmod,/Users/bobtrantin/Downloads/Panzer Leader Deluxe Game Pack-5/PanzerLeader-Deluxe.vmod,/Users/bobtrantin/Downloads/Pzb-Pzl37.vmod,/Users/bobtrantin/Downloads/RSBDE-v1.1.1-p02.vmod,/Users/bobtrantin/Downloads/Russia_Besieged_2nd_Edition_Remake_(1.3).vmod,/Users/bobtrantin/Downloads/STGD-31b06-wga.vmod,/Users/bobtrantin/Downloads/SAB-ver-1-11.vmod,/Users/bobtrantin/Downloads/S-SAtR_1-00.vmod,/Users/bobtrantin/Downloads/The_Emperor_Returns_1.4.0-v3.2.3.vmod,/Users/bobtrantin/Downloads/TRC5_GMT_v1-1.vmod,/Users/bobtrantin/Downloads/vasl-6.6.7.vmod,/Applications/VASSAL.app/Contents/Resources/doc/tour.mod,/Users/bobtrantin/Downloads/WL_v5.vmod
RecentModules=/Users/bobtrantin/Downloads/OSG_1806-Rossbach - Vassal Module_0.vmod,/Users/bobtrantin/Downloads/1807_The_Eagles_Turn_East_1.1.1_v3.2.7.vmod,/Users/bobtrantin/Downloads/AFK-2.3.vmod,/Users/bobtrantin/Downloads/Air_Assault_on_Crete_2_02.vmod,/Users/bobtrantin/Downloads/Bitter_Woods_-_Designer_Edition_v2.6.vmod,/Users/bobtrantin/Downloads/Tricorne.1.4.vmod,/Users/bobtrantin/Downloads/CombatCommanderEurope-2.4.vmod,/Users/bobtrantin/Downloads/CombatCommanderPacific-1.7.1.vmod,/Users/bobtrantin/Downloads/CCSamuraiV1.41.vmod,/Users/bobtrantin/Downloads/D-Day-v3.0a.vmod,/Users/bobtrantin/Downloads/fw V2.96.vmod,/Users/bobtrantin/Downloads/Fortress-Europa-Compass-1.0.vmod,/Users/bobtrantin/Downloads/GreatWarCommander_v2-2.vmod,/Users/bobtrantin/Downloads/GuadMaster.vmod,/Users/bobtrantin/Downloads/Italia_v1.1.vmod,/Users/bobtrantin/Downloads/Luftwaffe_8_2.vmod,/Users/bobtrantin/Downloads/Midway_2_2.vmod,/Users/bobtrantin/Downloads/PanzerBlitz Deluxe Game Pack-5/PanzerBlitz-Deluxe.vmod,/Users/bobtrantin/Downloads/Panzergrenadier/Core_Data--Panzer_Grenadier_\u00C3\u009Cber_Base_Module-12.vmod,/Users/bobtrantin/Downloads/Panzer Leader Deluxe Game Pack-5/PanzerLeader-Deluxe.vmod,/Users/bobtrantin/Downloads/Pzb-Pzl37.vmod,/Users/bobtrantin/Downloads/RSBDE-v1.1.1-p02.vmod,/Users/bobtrantin/Downloads/Russia_Besieged_2nd_Edition_Remake_(1.3).vmod,/Users/bobtrantin/Downloads/STGD-31b06-wga.vmod,/Users/bobtrantin/Downloads/SAB-ver-1-11.vmod,/Users/bobtrantin/Downloads/S-SAtR_1-00.vmod,/Users/bobtrantin/Downloads/The_Emperor_Returns_1.4.0-v3.2.3.vmod,/Users/bobtrantin/Downloads/TRC5_GMT_v1-1.vmod,/Users/bobtrantin/Downloads/vasl-6.6.7.vmod,/Applications/VASSAL.app/Contents/Resources/doc/tour.mod,/Users/bobtrantin/Downloads/WL_v5.vmod
ServerAddressBook=mode\=server|description\=P2P Network|serverPw\=xyzzy|listenPort\=5050|type\=peer2peer,description\=VASSAL Server|type\=official,nodeHost\=localhost|description\=Private Server|type\=private|nodePort\=5050
ServerImpl=\#Sun Sep 02 08\:24\:46 EDT 2018\nurl\=http\\\://www.vassalengine.org/util/getServerImpl\ntype\=node\ndescription\=VASSAL Legacy Server\ndynamic\=node\n
ServerSelected=\#Wed Nov 29 20\:03\:49 EST 2023\ndescription\=VASSAL Server\ntype\=official\n
autoVersionCheck=true
badDataAuditTrails=false
converterMaximumHeap=512
disableOGLFBO=false
gameMessageColor=255,0,255
initialHeap=256
mainWindowHeight=809
mainWindowRemember=true
mainWindowWidth=1373
maximumHeap=512
moduleManagerColumnWidths=VASSAL.tools.SequenceEncoder@757508d3
moduleManagerDeveloperInfo=false
moduleManagerDividerLocation=1337
modulesDir=/Users/bobtrantin
myChatColor=128,128,128
nextVersionCheck=2147532663010
otherChatColor=0,0,0
overrideDefaultFontSize=0
showServerStatus=false
systemMessageColor=160,160,160
tilerMaximumHeap=6144
translatableSupport=false
wakeUpSound=default
welcomeWizard=false
No. This screenshot shows modules. I wanted a screenshot from after theyāve disappeared.
I havenāt been able to replicate that tonight. I have downloaded 3.7.5 again but, didnāt lose the modules. I downloaded 3.7.4 and didnāt lose anything.
If you canāt replicate the problem, thereās nothing further we can do.
What I can do is the next time I have to update VASSAL. I will take some screen shots immediately of the module manager. I am going to go back and copy the command lines you provided so I can navigate quicker.
Thanks for trying
Bob T.
What does it mean that the modules disappear? When I (also on a Mac) upgrade Vassal, the modules often (always?) disappear from the module list in the app, but obviously not from my hard drive. I simply File/Open each module to get it back into Vassal. Is the Vassal pref file supposed to migrate to each new version? āCause that would be pretty nice! If it helps, Iām happy to get online with some screen sharing some time to help - but Iām in New Zealand so coordinating time might be a challenge.
Are you able to reproduce this reliably?
Yes, absolutely. What youāre seeing should never, ever happen.
I donāt think anything in real-time is requiredābasically weāve been periodically trying to suss this out for multiple years and no one with the needed level of technical savvy has stuck with it long enough to complete a diagnosis and find the root cause of this problem. People are just suffering in silence for some reason.
There isnāt even a āmigrationā in any sense. The preferences file which contains (among other things) the list of modules youāve previously opened is buried deep in your home directory. It doesnāt get modified at all when you install a new VASSAL version.
Upgraded to 3.7.6 and everything is where itās supposed to be ā¦