Twilight Struggle 3.03a: can't see the hands

Dear friends,

From a couple of days ago, i can’t play Twilight Struggle module 3.03a

When i synchro with a game, it treats me like an observer: i can’t see any hands.

I haven’t changed the user nor the password, nor my fellows. They have the same problem with me. In one try, we both players had control of the Americans!! In another one, i could see the hand… but with 16 cards!

I have tried to reinstall vassal, the module, java… I am getting crazy,

Please HELP!

Windows XP
JAVA 6 update 21
Vassal 3.1.14
Module: Twilight Struggle 3.03a
archiduquecarlos

Posts: 1
Joined: September 23rd, 2010, 10:14 pm

Are you saying that this is still happening? You still can’t play
properly? Or was it only once?

  • M.

On 23 September 2010 16:30, archiduquecarlos archiduquecarlos@gmail.comwrote:

Dear friends,

From a couple of days ago, i can’t play Twilight Struggle module 3.03a

When i synchro with a game, it treats me like an observer: i can’t see
any hands.

I haven’t changed the user nor the password, nor my fellows. They have
the same problem with me. In one try, we both players had control of the
Americans!! In another one, i could see the hand… but with 16 cards!

I have tried to reinstall vassal, the module, java… I am getting
crazy,

Please HELP!

Windows XP
JAVA 6 update 21
Vassal 3.1.14
Module: Twilight Struggle 3.03a
archiduquecarlos

Posts: 1
Joined: September 23rd, 2010, 10:14 pm

Are you saying that this is still happening?� You still can’t play properly?� Or was it only once?

- M.

On 23 September 2010 16:30, archiduquecarlos <archiduquecarlos@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear friends,

From a couple of days ago, i can't play Twilight Struggle module 3.03a

When i synchro with a game, it treats me like an observer: i can't see
any hands.

I haven't changed the user nor the password, nor my fellows. They have
the same problem with me. In one try, we both players had control of the
Americans!! In another one, i could see the hand... but with 16 cards!

I have tried to reinstall vassal, the module, java... I am getting
crazy,

Please HELP!



Windows XP
JAVA 6 update 21
Vassal 3.1.14
Module: Twilight Struggle 3.03a
archiduquecarlos

Posts: 1
Joined: September 23rd, 2010, 10:14 pm

It happens everytime: with a new game and with a saved one. I have tried no less than 50 times. Once i could see my hand, but with 16 cards… and another one we both players could see the american hand.

The player who can’t see his hand is the one who sincronizes. The other one can see his own hand. If i load or start the game, i see my hand, but my rival can’t. If my rival start or loads, then it’s me who can’t see my hand.

This doesn’t happen for me unfortunately. What I’m going to suggest is that
we connect at the same time to see what’s going on.

What time zone are you in? What times are good for you?

  • M.

On 24 September 2010 01:47, archiduquecarlos archiduquecarlos@gmail.comwrote:

[This message has been edited.]

It happens everytime: with a new game and with a saved one. I have tried
no less than 50 times. Once i could see my hand, but with 16 cards…
and another one we both players could see the american hand.

The player who can’t see his hand is the one who sincronizes. The other
one can see his own hand. If i load or start the game, i see my hand,
but my rival can’t. If my rival start or loads, then it’s me who can’t
see my hand.

This doesn’t happen for me unfortunately. What I’m going to suggest is that we connect at the same time to see what’s going on.

What time zone are you in?� What times are good for you?

- M.

On 24 September 2010 01:47, archiduquecarlos <[archiduquecarlos@gmail.com](mailto:archiduquecarlos@gmail.com)> wrote:

[This message has been edited.]



It happens everytime: with a new game and with a saved one. I have tried

no less than 50 times. Once i could see my hand, but with 16 cards…

and another one we both players could see the american hand.



The player who can’t see his hand is the one who sincronizes. The other

one can see his own hand. If i load or start the game, i see my hand,

but my rival can’t. If my rival start or loads, then it’s me who can’t

see my hand.

I am in GMT+1 (Madrid, Spain). I will post here when i could be connected:

From 17:015 to 18:00 GMT+1 today, Friday

I will be on the Main Room awaiting any help, my username is archiduquecarlos

Thank you very much!

More misteriuos things:

A friend of mine, who is experiencing the same problem, tried yesterday to play against himself with two different laptops and users. It worked. Yesterday. Not today. Today, one of shows the horrible grey hand buttons :frowning:

It’s like one of the players being sistematically treated as obsever. And, as the one who syncro, cant’ asume a side…

Note that it doesn’t ask for a side when sincronize.

We have checked other modules and they work and asd for side

I will be online from 3:30 pm to 5:00 pm in Nova Scotia time

PD: I would love to travel there, my wife is an absolute fan of the “Anne of the Green Gables” saga, she had read all the eight books!

Another question: what do you mean with the “not loggin” suggestion in the quick start? Use only point to point connection insteas of Vassal server? Not use username? I am getting desperate :slight_smile:

That’s great, but I’m not in Nova Scotia right now! I’m traveling.

I’m back in Nova Scotia on Sunday.

  • M

On 2010-09-24, at 12:33 PM, archiduquecarlos archiduquecarlos@gmail.com wrote:

I will be online from 3:30 pm to 5:00 pm in Nova Scotia time

PD: I would love to travel there, my wife is an absolute fan of the
“Anne of the Green Gables” saga, she had read all the eight books!


Read this topic online here:
https://forum.vassalengine.org/t/twilight-struggle-3-03a-cant-see-the-hands/3300/9


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It says to not use the logging function. It means don’t bother beginning a
logfile as it will result in strange things. Actually, that’s not true, but
I thought it was at the time. I’ll have to fix that comment.

  • M.

On 24 September 2010 17:57, archiduquecarlos archiduquecarlos@gmail.comwrote:

Another question: what do you mean with the “not loggin” suggestion in
the quick start? Use only point to point connection insteas of Vassal
server? Not use username? I am getting desperate :slight_smile:

It says to not use the logging function.� It means don’t bother beginning a logfile as it will result in strange things.� Actually, that’s not true, but I thought it was at the time.� I’ll have to fix that comment.


- M.

On 24 September 2010 17:57, archiduquecarlos <archiduquecarlos@gmail.com> wrote:

Another question: what do you mean with the “not loggin” suggestion in

the quick start? Use only point to point connection insteas of Vassal

server? Not use username? I am getting desperate :slight_smile:

Right now, there is 8 hours between us. I can try to be available at 14.30
your time. If that doesn’t work, I will be in N.S. on Sunday and will be
more flexible then.

I’ll check if you’re on tomorrow. If not, no worries, we’ll try again. My
login is mkiefte or Michael Kiefte.

  • M.

On 24 September 2010 18:25, Michael Kiefte mkiefte@dal.ca wrote:

That’s great, but I’m not in Nova Scotia right now! I’m traveling.

I’m back in Nova Scotia on Sunday.

  • M

On 2010-09-24, at 12:33 PM, archiduquecarlos archiduquecarlos@gmail.com
wrote:

I will be online from 3:30 pm to 5:00 pm in Nova Scotia time

PD: I would love to travel there, my wife is an absolute fan of the
“Anne of the Green Gables” saga, she had read all the eight books!

Right now, there is 8 hours between us.� I can try to be available at 14.30 your time.� If that doesn’t work, I will be in N.S. on Sunday and will be more flexible then.

I’ll check if you’re on tomorrow.� If not, no worries, we’ll try again.� My login is mkiefte or Michael Kiefte.


- M.�

On 24 September 2010 18:25, Michael Kiefte <mkiefte@dal.ca> wrote:

That’s great, but I’m not in Nova Scotia right now! I’m traveling.



I’m back in Nova Scotia on Sunday.


I will be online from 3:30 pm to 5:00 pm in Nova Scotia time





PD: I would love to travel there, my wife is an absolute fan of the

“Anne of the Green Gables” saga, she had read all the eight books!


I won’t be at home at 14:30 GMT+1 (i will be in an awful party with my 6 year old daughter friends and parents).

I will post when avalaible on sunday.

Thank you very much

I am online now, 22:00 GMT+1

Sorry I missed you. You’ll have to give me some times for Sunday
(preferably as late as possible).

  • M.

On 25 September 2010 14:01, archiduquecarlos archiduquecarlos@gmail.comwrote:

I am online now, 22:00 GMT+1

Sorry I missed you.� You’ll have to give me some times for Sunday (preferably as late as possible).

- M.

On 25 September 2010 14:01, archiduquecarlos <archiduquecarlos@gmail.com> wrote:

I am online now, 22:00 GMT+1


Please, don’t worry.

I will be more or less online from 21:00 tp 00:00 GMT+1

I will have Vassal open and will be in a room called “Testing error”. In case i would be out of the keyboard, please, synchronize with me: you can see the error that way. I will have opened an standard game with me playing americans

Yours

archiduquecarlos

PD: Thank you very much for you effort. Your module is absolutely outstanding. Is the best job i have seen with vassal: it knows the rules better than me :slight_smile:

Thank you very much again, Michael!

BTW, it seems the bug happened when you play with another language than english. So, it fixed changing the language into english.